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AIBU to want Low Contact with family

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CatonNZ · 10/02/2020 16:03

Firstly, I have to say this is an amazing community! Fantastic caring people and community that I have enjoyed learning from and ‘listening’ to. Just wished I’d known about you all ten years ago!

My problem: I have a family that on the best days drive me to distraction, on the worst.. hurt me. Latest saga... I am overseas on holiday (I’m engaged), I get a message from my 30Yo DN, asking me to buy her a pair of Doc Martens, and 2 T-shirts from a brand you can only find where I am. I say I will have a look if I am able. I’m a bit surprised b/c other than the happy birthday or Xmas message I haven’t seen her over 15 years.

I then hear from my DB next day saying “don’t disappoint my daughter”. Which surprised and angered me.

I then hear upon my return from our mum who says “you f’ed up” by not scouring every shop I could to purchase and bring said items to DN?!?! At my expense of course.
Background: my DB helped me renovate my house and did a fantastic job. He did the labour, I bought the materials. I ‘paid’ him via looking after extensive dental work (couple thousand pounds worth) bought him tools and paid for him to travel up and down the country to see our DD.

Two weeks ago I hear DB is back in town ( he usually stays with our mum). I hear he’s not well and caught a flu bug. I decide to bake a banana loaf and plan on driving by to drop off. Our DM rings me to say err no, I need to ring my DB and “ask him if it is ok for me to drop by and bring said banana loaf”. Further conveyed by DM “wasn’t he shouting at you the last time you spoke”?!? Errr no. And then the declaration from DM “ I just want my children to get along”... before I die.

Yes, but it doesn’t help that we (meaning me) have never been treated equally nor afforded the same privileges. I feel sad and prior felt hurt and angry... but this has been going on my entire life. DN tuition was paid for by DM six years running. DSister same but that was for seven years. DS children taken on four Caribbean holidays in last five years.. and camp, clothing, lessons etc since they were in primary school ( they’re teenagers now) DS on car number four ( I still shake my head at this one) paid for by DM. Lastly my DB and DS and their children have all had orthodontics... you guessed it paid for by DM. I am the oldest, have had to work to pay for all uni/living/ health expenses etc. My two sons who are now young adults same. I did not marry a wealthy man and have been divorced many years. It has only started to click in my mind the common denominator(s) and it does hurt. I had tried talking to DM and gently broached the subject (the last time I said something she took offence to She did not speak to me for 9 months).

I could go on but don’t think it’s helpful. It’s not that I don’t love my family, I feel it may be best to cease contact to a bare minimum.

AIBU

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messolini9 · 10/02/2020 20:31

But yes some sort of therapy would no doubt help me navigate this mess...

Yes Caton, & give you an outlet for the appalling frustration of the unfairness, as well as teaching you about how the Cluster-B's will react to your decision to go LC or NC.

It's suffocating, isn't it?
You hold your head up & walk away. You've done enough for this bunch of grasping fuckwits. Grin

CatonNZ · 10/02/2020 20:34

I could go on with a myriad of tragic tales... but I guess the most recent are the ones that come to mind. It has affected me and both my sons unfortunately and my underlying senses tell me that neither DM, DS or DB do anything unless it is to their exclusive benefit and gain. The things I have been asked to do are overwhelming. Early last year I had an unexpected visit from DM and DS late one evening. Purpose of visit was to ask if I could have DS aged 16 move in with me for 9 months whilst DS trains to be an air hostess and is posted god knows where. I said I would consider it over the summer but would not be able to for the 9 months. After they left, it dawned on me that they had both been planning this for a while as unbeknownst to me DS had the job offer and accepted it weeks before. It then dawned on me my life was going to be hell... a teen with a boyfriend who smokes marijuana etc wasn’t going to bode well. There wasn’t any talk of finance contribution as it was clearly expected I would pay. I ended up saying no within a few days. I thought to myself why am i going to do this? I’ve already raised two boys and done my bit ( with no help whatsoever from anyone-not that I needed it but family babysitting from time to time might have been nice for the boys and myself) but no. Shortly after that we’ll i was ostracized b/c of the 40$ duty free gate 😂

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CatonNZ · 10/02/2020 20:38

@messolini9 You don’t know half of it!!! A huge thank you! It is through sharing with others and observing how people respond on Mumsnet that I’ve learned quite a bit in the last few months. Finally got the courage to share part of my own unpleasant story.

It is sad how being brought up and exposed to this sort of behaviour deadens one to what the permitted of being treated normally, oftentimes, are. You know there is something wrong because of the way it makes you feel, you just can’t put your finger on it.

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CatonNZ · 10/02/2020 20:42

@ForalltheSaints Let’s hear it for The weasels!!! Thank you for your post:-)

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CatonNZ · 10/02/2020 20:52

You have all got me thinking now... about the future... and what kind of contact I want with them if at all.

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Cherrysoup · 10/02/2020 20:55

Goodness me, I have no idea why you’re still in touch with any of these awful people! Who the hell does your dh think she is demanding the shoes??

Please stop trying to keep on their good size, it’ll never happen, they’ll just keep taking and taking, nothing will ever be good enough for them, so stop killing your self trying to please them. You can’t, newsflash, you’re the scapegoat in this scenario.

For your own sake and that of your mental health, withdraw, become the ice maiden, look after yourself and not them for a change.

JohnMcCainsDeathStare · 10/02/2020 21:02

I'm sorry I was rude to the weasels except shitweasels. I hope that seeing 'normal' people on this thread makes you realise that normal families don't act like that. We might moan and disagree but we will not dump on each other or turn people into scapegotes.

Paddy1234 · 10/02/2020 21:04

@messolini9 - great insightful advice.
I definitely have a few people on my life that have these traits but luckily nothing like OP and not inner family.
OP - I think your eyes have been well and truly opened

Good luck ❤️❤️❤️

messolini9 · 10/02/2020 21:16

Thank you @Paddy1234 :)

I am really only pay it back / paying it forwards.
Wisdom (never enough!) comes at a price, but praise be I've paid mine now, & the absolute blessing has been that ... my Cluster-B's have gone NC with me.

Result, huh?

In my case, the truth set me free. I snapped - once in 5 decades - lost my cool & challenged one of the Clusterfucks on her invidious self-centred batshittery. Never challenge a Covert Narc! (google it) She went fucking batshit, DARVO'd me, called a press conference to Denounce my arse to the world in general (newsflash, the world rightly wasn't interested), & issued The Grand Decree of Messo Being Sent To Coventry. For Ever, So Ner, I Get The Last Word So Now I Both 'Win' AND Get To Play The Dramatic Victim For Evermore.

A few years on, this all feels comparatively ... excellent.
Apologies for oversharing. Slightly triggered + phat glass of red ... Grin Grin Grin

CatonNZ · 10/02/2020 21:16

@Cherrysoup thank you! Easier said than done.. looking after oneself first I mean. I’ve always put others first and probably have to learn to do so for my well being. I guess I’ve been conditioned I.e. brain washed

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CatonNZ · 10/02/2020 21:17

@Paddy1234 thank you!

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CatonNZ · 10/02/2020 23:37

@messolini9 re-reading your messages, what really stands out for me is this: in order to bring you back to heel. They will perceive you distancing yourself as an affront, & they will demand obedience & submission. A big PHAT thank you!!!

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messolini9 · 10/02/2020 23:44

ha HA! - my pleasure Caton x

Also - congrats on your engagement, & on being able to say NO to the preposterous 'fait accompli' of you taking on one of the children "for 9 months". And their dope-smoking b/f, in your house. Nice. [eyeroll]

CatonNZ · 10/02/2020 23:55

@JohnMcCainsDeathStare that’s what I’m craving but alas don’t think I will ever see it in this( my) family of origin...normalcy. Ling live the weasels. ;-)

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CatonNZ · 11/02/2020 00:05

@messolini9 Thank you so much for your best wishes!!! My fiancé has been warned early on of the dysfunction...but now I am starting to fret with my eyes open... who do I invite to the wedding,??? DM didn’t attend the first one (I was in my 20s and she conveniently had a huge argument with my bf of the time which caused no end of trouble for us. Didn’t attempt the second one ( when I turned 40 b:c she said she could not ‘get away from work’ and now... what? DM did however pay for the entire wedding of DS including the dress and the lace flown in especially from France.... in saying that I got a ‘best wishes’ card.. for wedding no 2. She has informed me that ‘she hopes to receive an invite for this wedding’. I feel nauseous at the whole idea really... as many have said... my eyes are now open?!?

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messolini9 · 11/02/2020 00:12

Saints preserve us don't infect your lovely wedding with these people.
Your fiance has done nothing to deserve that - & neither have you !

You either tell them that it's a quiet affair, just you, fiance & kids ...
OR, if the date's far enough away for you to manage this first - you go NC. Problem solved.

That pattern of worrying about the "what if's" & fretting about the implications will be with you for a while yet Caton.
See how it's intruding on you now, taking up mindspace & causing you unpleasant physiological reactions? Even though they are not in the same room with you? THIS TOO SHALL PASS. Crack on with finding that therapist my dear.

CatonNZ · 11/02/2020 00:24

@messolini9 thank you, I will. Taken note of your comments too xx

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Cornishclio · 11/02/2020 07:02

Goodness me I would steer well clear of them. I cannot imagine not treating my two daughters the same and your DM has been fostering resentment by using and abusing you whilst favouring your DSis and DB. What do your two DS think of essentially being ignored by your DM whils5 she pays out for holidays etc for her other grandchildren? Why not have a quiet wedding just with your DS and friends etc and leave your family out of it. Your poor fiancé does not deserve to have to deal with these CFs.

CatonNZ · 11/02/2020 10:28

@Cornishclio they aren’t really aware as neither of them lived in the same country as DS, DB and DM for many, many years. Essentially, I moved away a few years after uni, moved back for a short time and moved away again for many years. (guess I too have tried to put distance ) I would say they aren’t terribly aware of the repetitive stance. The eldest lives in the same country but at the other end, the younger one returned overseas. Sad for me but as long as they are happy and have good friends around them, I’m content. That said, last year when DS wanted to leave her daughter (DN) with meditation 9 months (which I declined) she asked me for my DS’s contact details-I asked him if it was ok to give them to her/he said quite clearly “no”. When DS asked me for his details I said he didn’t want to be contacted her response was “fxxxed family”..which really surprised me. Something must have happened there. So short answer most likely they don’t know/haven’t been exposed and don’t care.

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CatonNZ · 11/02/2020 10:30

@Cornishclio me Not mediation. Hate auto text

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Hepsibar · 11/02/2020 10:46

If you were not related to these people would you have them in your life at all. They seem the most selfish bunch of drama queens that cause a lot of stress.

I would suggest keeping contact to the barest min in case there are occasions like weddings, funerals etc that you might wish to attend.

CatonNZ · 11/02/2020 12:14

@Hepsibar Thank you for your advice!

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CatonNZ · 12/02/2020 15:07

To everyone who posted, and voted and read...Heartfelt thanks for your input, care and words. I'm slowly gaining longed-for clarity. We sometimes see ourselves through the eyes of others -

kindest regards and thoughts to you all. Flowers x

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