To think the world's becoming a horrible place

[Curiouschlo]

All you hear and see is gloom and doom.

Every week there's videos circling Facebook off teenagers battering each other. Today a local one was circling. I couldn't watch it. But I read the local comments. 3 lads beat up an autistic lad after school. Kicking him in the head etc. A girl filmed it. It's becoming a regular thing where I live to be robbed and beaten up in the street. Older Kids spit on the floor and swear and smoke Infront of my small children when we walk home after school. They shout swear words to their mates ahead. They do wheelies Infront of my children and others without any considerations of their actions.

A care home is circling at the moment for abusing a vunerable person in there so called care.

All you hear about is war and coronavirus at the moment. More attacks have happened in London this week.

I'm normally ok but this week I just keep hugging my kids and watching them play, worrying for their futures. I mean what is the future going to be for them? The world's a horrible place. Obviously there's alot of wonderful things in this world. But it breaks my heart to think they have got to be teenagers. My eldest is 5. Will she be happy and safe in 7 years time at secondary? Or will her life be made a misery. At least while they are little I can keep them safe. I'm absolutely terrified of the future and what could happen.

I'm not depressed by the way. I am just abit concerned

@huntinghighandllow I don't for a second think your child gets a dirty look when walking home from school alone!

Are you calling my teenagers liars?

"Kids on average have more now than they ever have. Fact.

An "I deserve" attitude isn't helping"

That's the parents' fault

I don't think the world is a worse place.

In many ways it is better.
I was born in the 60s. Child abuse was hidden and unreported because it brough t discgrace to families.
Wome were beaten by husbands and police were not interested, rape within marriage was not a crime.
Women couldn't get a mortgage or a loan without their husband;s pemission.
Racism was the norm, homosexuality was illegal.

Give me 2020 any day.

@JamesBlonde1 I agree

I was a teen 15 years ago. We didn't have dyed hair, contoured faces and an I phone. It's definitely a materilstic world. The amount of bullying that goes on in Snapchat etc.

Yep evil things have always happened. It's more that people seem alot more prepared to inflict senseless violence on others. I think it's a massive problem. It's to the extreme now. Not to mention the amount of teenagers smoking weed after school. They don't even try to hide it.

Hennyspennys

No I think you just made that up

lots of violence and bullying going on due to phones

er, no. videoing the violence can be evidence and can be shared to highlight, reduce and stop the issue. as for the swearing....only person swearing on this thread is you....lead by example maybe?

@huntinghighandlow No I think you just made that up

So you are calling me a liar. In that case there is no point in me wasting my time engaging with you. Good night.

@huntinghighandllow what rubbish.

The best parent in the world can't stop their teenagers getting involved with idiots or making bad choices. You can teach your kid the right ways but they become friends with someone who is a bad influence and you loose control then. Yes some parents are to blame. A majority don't encourage their kids to be thugish.

I'm sure your kids are not judged if they are not intimidating or behaving inappropriately.

teens 15 years ago did have dyed hair....contoured faces and iPhones come from the ADULTS so maybe blame them, not the kids?

That was for @hennyspennys

My parents grew up in wartime and while what happens now is not the idyllic world we would all hope for, at least for most of us on MN life is a hell of a lot better than it was.

I have spent some time recently properly listening to my father talk about living in Spain as a child in the civil war and my mother who was evacuated from London in the Blitz. We must fight to make sure we never repeat those times.

You need to read factfullness op ...
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@LoveNote well it doesn't change the point to the post! Things are getting worse! You don't have to agree!!!!

I doubt violence has increased, but to me, general kindness and consideration has gone out the window. People seem to have an almost defensive individualistic focus now, sort of selfish in an expecting other people to be selfish way.

Like walking/driving right in front of others, not letting people go past, shop assistants not even speaking to you while carrying on their own conversation, etc. I has definitely got worse, no question.

I don't think human nature has changed underneath though.

My school friend was the only black person in our school in the 80s, she suffered some terrible abuse from one boy in particular. He's on my secondary school Facebook group laughing and joking with them all about what great times they had at school. I so want to ask him if he's still a vile racist.

People used to take more pride in being nice to each other, like strangers on the street etc.

It's more dog eat dog now.

I'm sure your kids are not judged if they are not intimidating

Some elderly people find all teenagers intimidating and look at them as if they are about to mug them. My teenagers have been on the receiving end of that when they have been nothing other than coming out of school and walking home. That's the end of my involvement on this thread, I will not tolerate being accused of lying.

I'm afraid some of the parents have the same, "I deserve" attitude as well.

New TV, yeah on the credit card.

New carpet, yeah on the credit card.

New sofa cos want a change of decor yeah on the credit card.

False hair, nails, lips, shit I could go on.

Bloody lack of manners to boot.

Humans have always had the capacity to be horrible to one another. The dark ages. The holocaust. Slavery. Public executions. Off the top of my head. If anything the world has become a far more civilised place in general although there are still pockets of unpleasantness. .

What's changed is that this is all much more easily documented and the evidence can be be shown much more easily

I can understand why this is all upsetting to you but its really no worse than at any other point in history and you're not doing your kids any favours by catastrophising: you'll just scare them. Better off to teach them good behaviour and moral boundaries and then reassure them that there is plenty that's good in human behaviour.

no. things are not getting worse

I guess I just hope my kids grow up safe and happy and with a few good friends. I don't think the streets are as safe anymore either. When I was 13-14 I was often asked to take people's babies for a walk to the shop etc. Neighbours etc. Id never trust a 13 year old with my kids. Not to mention kids don't play out like we did. I have alot of friends with kids between 8-11 years of age. They don't let them out in the street to play. We were safe out on our bikes etc.

@LoveNote just go lol!!! You clearly are looking for a fight. You are spoiling the thread!!!

When has the world ever been nice?

People have always been dickheads.

@hennyspennys

Well maybe somw old people are intimidated by all teens. Imagine being old and frail and so much has changed since you were 18.

I get it, I do. Ds is 19 months and I'm worried about bullying, peer pressure, drug use, gangs, violence, abuse, kidnap, mental health issues, injury etc... but these are not new phenomena.

As pp have said, it used to be the norm for kids to get beaten. Rape inside of a marriage was only recognised in law in 1991. Children used to be sent to work in dangerous conditions aged 13. Bullying has always existed. Vaccines and antibiotics are still a relatively new advancement.

There have always been horrible things and people. If we dwell on this then of course life is going to be big and scary but theres so much good in the world too. As parents it's our job to guide our children to become well rounded kind adults who are aware of life's dangers but who succeed none the less.