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Believing their own lies and never taking responsibility

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inmyshoos · 03/02/2020 08:10

What's it called? I'm pretty sure there is a name for it.

When people lie and then actually believe what they are saying is true, never take any responsibility for anything going wrong?

Examples...
Crash car... It was the ice on road (not that they were driving too fast given weather conditions)
Crash into something on road... It was unavoidable.... Not that they didn't react quickly enough..
Say another person has said something when they haven't but continue to say it like the other person is crazy...

What's the name for this?

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LetsBeSensible · 03/02/2020 08:17

Gaslighting, or cognitive dissonance

inmyshoos · 03/02/2020 08:23

Thank you

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GloGirl · 03/02/2020 10:16

Narcissm.

I thought it was about vanity but it's much more about never taking responsibility. My mother is a narcissist and completely incapable about recalling any event or conversation with any truth, she retells her own history to suit. Same story played out with absolute conviction that she is the hero, at other times the victim.

Heavy crossover with gaslighting and making out other people are crazy for not believing her version of truth.

Will ocassionally conceed a point but with a raised eyebrow to convey that she doesn't actually believe what you two have just agreed was true.

Spent a whole day with her yesterday. Sigh.

CSIblonde · 03/02/2020 10:33

Depends. Fantasist: lies as can't cope with reality or to make self seem more interesting. Narcissist:it's all about them & they'll lie & twist events or conversations so that they're getting what they want, they're the focus.
Emotional Abuse: under mining, sabotaging, gaslighting, manipulation & control.

inmyshoos · 03/02/2020 15:44

Yeah gaslighting... Manipulation... Narcissistic behaviour.... Huge ego.... All fits the bill.

Exh.. Left him because he was abusing me but so hard to see when you are in it. Now he is doing it to our dc. Just blatant lies and controlling behaviour. Trying to paint a completely inaccurate picture. Urgh.... Makes my skin crawl....

I need to protect my dds from this. Sad

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Doyoumind · 03/02/2020 15:50

That's my abusive ex too. It is difficult when your DC are affected but give them confidence in their own views and memories.

When it doesn't directly involve my DC I've got to the point where I find it amusing to try and predict what he will say or do. I'm usually right. He's very predictable. It also helps you anticipate where you can try and mitigate against his behaviour with your DC.

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