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To think we should stop flights from China?

34 replies

Lasttraintolondon · 01/02/2020 09:20

I've seen a shocking lack of understanding of figures regarding the Coronavirus on here. An example:

runninguphills

All the evidence points to it having an mortality incidence of 3% - although it suspected to be much lower as many who have been infected only gave cold like symptoms and haven't sought out medical assessment.

The usual bog standard flu has a mortality rate of 1%.

Things like the above are utterly incorrect. One in 100 of us infected do not die of flu every year. How many people do you personally know who have died of flu? The actual mortality rate of flu in a given year is lower than 0.02 cases per 100,000 of the population. Swine flu mortality was 26 cases per 100,000. Last week the coronavirus cases killed 26 people out of just over 800. Its an order of magnitude more deadly and just as contagious.

If you debate this, go to the lancet and harvard websites and read what it says about this virus. There are some excellent studies there. Even survivors have been left with things like heart damage. Half the deaths were of healthy people with no underlying health conditions. God knows what this will do to the young, elderly and immune compromised.

So voting - not being unreasonable - stop the flights for now

Are being unreasonable - keep them open.

OP posts:
cuckooken · 01/02/2020 10:27

Flights have been cancelled?

PlomBear · 01/02/2020 10:31

“ BA said on January 30 it had cancelled all flights to mainland China for a month.”

Virgin Atlantic

“Virgin Atlantic said on January 30 it would suspend its daily operations to Shanghai for two weeks from February 2. It cited declining demand for flights and the safety of its customers and staff.”

That doesn’t stop passengers from China using connecting flights.

And the virus is already in Europe and the U.K. All flights / coaches / trains / ships are not going to be halted.

Smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 01/02/2020 10:33

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CallmeAngelina · 01/02/2020 10:34

What good is cancelling flights TO China? Unless there are so many people changing their travel plans that those flights are no longer economic?
As I've read somewhere else somewhere this morning (dunno what/where, sorry), why quarantine those coming back on the "mercy flight" from Wuhan, but allow every other Tom, Dick or Harry arriving on scheduled flights to wander at will amongst the population?

KittenVsBox · 01/02/2020 10:44

Fairly sure the planes are flying to Hong Kong, and the train is still running into China from Hong Kong.

If the BA flight London -China doesn't go, it also cant do the China-London leg. But you can still go through the UAE with Emirates or Etihad.

CallmeAngelina · 01/02/2020 11:09

But if the USA are talking about denying entry to anyone who has travelled within China within the last two weeks, then regardless of where people have come via, then we could surely do the same, if there was the political will.

WellHolyGodMiley · 01/02/2020 11:28

BBC reported that a flight landed from China yesterday

ShanghaiDiva · 01/02/2020 11:39

I think HK cancelled the train links with the mainland and is reducing flights to the mainland by 50%
@CallmeAngelina there are no flights coming in from Wuhan which is the centre of the virus and the risk of people from other areas is lower. I believe the govt is encouraging those who arrive from other parts of China to self quarantine for 14 days. One of the reasons why I cancelled my trip later this month as I was only coming for two weeks so a bit pointless really!
Everyone is screened for a high temperature before being allowed to enter an airport in China, although people could still have the virus due to 14 day incubation period.

FourTeaFallOut · 01/02/2020 11:43

People do realise that we are not choosing between coronavirus and the flu? That the flu is keeping the NHS busy enough and all the illnesses that would follow from an outbreak of coronavirus would be additional?

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