How do you feel about people who regret voting for Brexit?

[Tobythecat]

I voted for brexit not realising what i was voting for- I just listened to all the lies. I'm older now (29) and I regret my vote. How do leaver voters feels about people are regret voting brexit?

My freedom of movement has just been removed from me without my consent. I’m pretty hacked off with Leave voters because of that. If they regret their vote, hats off to them for having the balls to rethink but it won’t give me my eu citizenship back. Particularly galling are the bregretters who then manage to secure an Irish passport for themselves so they can be insulated from the restrictions resultant from Brexshit.

I don’t personally know any .
Everyone I know who voted for it stands by their vote

Did a remainer start this thread.I voted leave and no I dont secretly regret it and none of the other leave voters I know regret it either. Wishful thinking from the remain camp.

Takes guts to admit you were wrong. Have you linked up with the Remainer Now project OP?

I know a couple of regretful leave voters. One was going for a protest vote (see pic), the other was convinced by the Leave economic lies. That's okay, because they changed their minds as the lies were revealed. It's the folks who still insist everything's going to be great that trouble me.

Did a remainer start this thread.

The paranoia has already started as it's Leavers who have to own this. So many articles today from Leavers that it was Remainers' fault that the WA is shit. As in, it is the fault of people who didn't vote for this.

It's the stubborn leavers I really have a problem with. None of them have been able to give me one single benefit to leaving beyond vague 'taking back control' bollocks.

To be fair, it's hardly a secret how much say the EU has had in the laws of all of the member countries, when it was originally sold as basically a trading bloc. A lot of (maybe scaremongering) stories throughout the years about how our hands were tied because Europe was demanding this or that absurd thing - long before any suggestion of leaving was actually on the cards.

As to how to take back control, that's not really something a non-politician is going to understand the minutiae of, is it? Many people will choose a new car based on the reputation and reliability reports of the maker, but you don't expect them to have a full understanding of exactly how the engine works.

I'm guessing that plenty of people voted to sever ties with the EU, because they felt like a much bigger bloc was taking over and making decisions contrary to our wishes and best interests. As far as I can tell, this is exactly the same reason that Salmond/Sturgeon and just under half of the Scottish people (at the time of the referendum) have been campaigning to sever ties with England/Westminster.

Whichever way people chose to vote, I really can't get my head around the automatic idea that ALL Brexiteers all racist, xenophobic, insular, stupid people (some undoubtedly are) for not wanting to be ruled over by the much larger demographic whereas a very similar proportion of Scots are lauded as brave, determined liberal visionaries for wanting exactly the same thing.

As to the PP whose DM has a Union Jack on her gate, if that's all there is to it and no accompanying slogans telling Johnny Forriner to go back home, I don't see how that proves anything. I wouldn't do it myself, as I think it looks really tacky and I don't agree with a great many things that our own ruling bodies stand for, but if simply displaying national flags by your door is racist, then the EU must be the most racist organisation on the planet, going on the parliament building in Brussels.

...but you don't expect them to have a full understanding of exactly how the engine works.

Which is why you should never put anything so complex to a referendum.

I'm guessing that plenty of people voted to sever ties with the EU, because they felt like a much bigger bloc was taking over and making decisions contrary to our wishes and best interests.

I suggest that 'feeling' was fed by the press with an interest in leaving.

'Market research firm Ipsos MORI has surveyed Brits virtually every month for decades to gauge their attitudes to various political issues. And as late as December 2015, just 1% of respondents said that Europe was the most crucial issue facing the country.'

Do you really think that Boris Johnson (who couldn't be clearer about 'getting Brexit done' etc) would have got an 80 seat majority if there were a lot of leave voters who regretted voting leave?

On the contrary, it suggests there are now a lot of remainers who are OK with leaving.

The lib dems, who were the party of revoke (and who were not led by a terrifying communist) got absolutely obliterated in the last election.

All this suggests that there is a majority of people who are either in favour of leaving or not opposed to leaving / accept the result.

The vocal minority of remainers who don't accept the result / are now rejoiners, who dominate Twitter, Mumsnet etc don't reflect the overall mood of the country who want to now move on and make Brexit a success.

I Dont understand what im voting for here either??

Great people are able to admit when they feel they've made a mistake.

Given that their mistake has already caused actual hardship for other people and they either chose to disbelieve the warnings that it would, or they didn't care that it would, I hope they are speaking out more publicly than an anonymous forum. I hope they didn't then go to vote Tory at this past election which was seen as second referendum.

*Great that people are able to admit their mistakes...
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I think my mum now regrets it. Especially as now I am in the process of giving up my British citizenship so I can stay with my family. She is upset that I am having to do that and that we didn't come and visit last year and won't be back until the initial chaos dies down and we can get visas for her grandchildren.

I honestly think she thought I would just come back to the UK and leave my life and husband behind. Either that or she thought nothing would change. Rather rude awakening now, especially as her boyfriend is a dairy farmer and is looking at going out of business because he doesn't know how he is going to come with all the tariffs and stuff

No patience tbh. I didn't vote for this. As a result of some people protesting I am now in a precarious situation and am essentially exiled.

I know one elderly couple who are most put out that their daughter has left to stay with her husband in the EU and now don't have anyone to take care of them. Tough luck in my view. Isn't that a phrase the older generations use? You made your bed now lie in it?

massively prefer people like you to hard-core brexiteers.

Did a remainer start this thread

No. Read the OP.

The detail...

I dislike them as much as the ones who don't regret it and I will always judge them harshly.

I havent met anyone who regretted it

My elderly neighbour bitterly regrets voting Leave, feels she was lied to. We talk a lot about it and she has my respect as it is hard to say ‘I was wrong ‘.

I don’t think we need to pull together, I think Leavers have to make this work and show those of us who have been and are still genuinely worried that our fears are misplaced and they need to start being gracious winners.

The Lie Minister got a big majority because of the way our electoral system works not because lots of Remainers changed their mind. Don’t have the figures at hand but I think 43% of the country voted Conservative which is significantly lower than the 52% who voted to Leave in the Referendum.

As I said over to Leavers now to prove to those who are now adults and have to live with this but were too young to vote at the time that they haven’t fucked them over.

Do you really think that Boris Johnson (who couldn't be clearer about 'getting Brexit done' etc) would have got an 80 seat majority if there were a lot of leave voters who regretted voting leave?

On the contrary, it suggests there are now a lot of remainers who are OK with leaving.

No it doesn't.

Your premise is completely wrong here. You're starting from the basis that the number of seats won in the GE reflects the votes cast by the population. It doesn't, because of First Past the Post.

In fact, the number of votes cast for parties and candidates not wanting to leave the EU like we did last night, ie the WA without a final vote, comfortably exceeded 50%. Even if you add Brexit and UKIP voters, it's still under half the votes cast. Johnson got an 80 seat majority on slightly over 40% of the votes cast, because our electoral system creates majorities where none exist.

That being said, just because the clear majority voted against implementing the Brexit we've just had, doesn't necessarily mean anyone changed their minds after 2016. The electorate is different now: people who voted in 2016 have died, people who were too young to vote then were old enough by December 2019, people who didn't have citizenship before acquired it since. It could in theory all be down to those changes.

In answer to the OP, if they acknowledge they made an objectively poor choice and did what they could to remedy that, which at minimum includes using their vote against Brexit in subsequent elections, I feel fairly empathetic.

Looking at the absolute morons twatting about in Parliament Square last night I think anyone who regrets it has my sympathy and support. It's the ones who still haven't learned and listened to anything I take issue with.

I regret it because I read up more on the EU after the vote than before and think I was wrong. If the margin between leave and remain had been bigger than 1.3m then maybe the result would have been respected sooner and the last 3 1/2 years would have been less unpleasant.

How do leaver voters feels about people are regret voting brexit?
Good luck finding anyone who will admit to voting Leave on MN.

I voted Leave but am too stupid to regret it