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Husband visiting escort sites

34 replies

WhataCacophony · 31/01/2020 13:31

It's hard for me to write this but I want to know if I'm crazy.

Last year I discovered by accident that my husband of five years was visiting escort sites, local ones for our area. We have always been quite open with our phones and he readily gave me the password a long time ago.
The searches I discovered had been deleted from 'history' but were still showing when I looked at the 'My Activity' side of google, entitled 'Searched for' and then 'Visited'. I don't think he was aware of this extra ability to see history other than through normal history log.
Some of the searches were quite specific, such as 'anal escorts town name'

There was no evidence in call logs, messages etc to show he had actioned any of this but there was a search for hotels in our area too. He knows I'm fine with porn but this was different.

I was completely devastated and in shock and I almost stopped functioning whilst faced with this, couldn't eat or sleep it affected me so profoundly. When I confronted him, and boy did I confront him, he said it was pop ups then said it was accidental and at last admitted after days of me pressuring him that he had been 'stupid' and made a really bad mistake and he was embarrassed and ashamed.

I had a million questions - why?? what for?? what was it about our relationship that made him look for this? was he going to take the next step?

He gaslighted me, got angry, got impatient, refused to discuss it and threatened to leave me if I didn't stop going on about it. He said I was like a woman possessed and needed a priest to get the crazy thoughts out of my head. I was shaken to the core and 10 months later still am though we are back on track I just can't get over it. Jesus I would never be able to cope with someone actually physically cheating on me.

I'm an intelligent and resourceful women and obviously didn't take too kindly to these suggestions but I love him and he has shown remorse (though not enough).

Obviously my self-confidence has been severely knocked and I have felt insecure - I want to know is this something that men just do and it's harmless but at the same time I think it sucks. We even argued in Sainsburys because I caught him staring at a couple of women so went off on one saying 'did you recognise them from the Escort site?'.

He has told me the matter is closed, shut and will not be discussed anymore, but I argue that if he really cared he would allow me to ask for further explanations and I have explained that it has affected me and the way I feel about him and he needs to give me the decency of listening to me as it was HIS mistake and for us to be able to discuss. He tells me he would never cheat on me and I'm the best thing that has ever happened to him, but I see this as cheating. I've never felt the need to look at naked me or search for male escorts.

I have made an appointment to see a counsellor next week but haven't plucked up the courage to tell him and don't think for a moment he will come with me, but I feel the only way forward is to talk to a third party, someone neutral.

Other than this we have a really good relationship, caring, thoughtful, never arguing about money or anything else, companionable, good sex life (though my sex drive is a lot higher than his). We cuddle and kiss and care deeply about each other but this has 'soiled' all that. I have lost respect for this lovely gentle sweet kind man.

He's a kind man and does good deeds, but even when I see him doing this I think 'if only people knew what he was furtively doing when he's on his own', sleazy perv. He was checking the sites multiple times just after I had left for work and even in the car park when he arrived at work (I know this from the timings of the searches).

Would it be something that runs in his family? e.g. would his father and grandfather have sought prostitutes or escorts outside of their marriages? Should I ask their wives? The thing is I have no-one to talk to or ask advice from as if I told my friends they would be horrified and never see him in the same light and I would feel ashamed.

Will I ever come to terms and be able to move on and are my thoughts overthinking and over the top. He tells me I have the tendency to overthink and create problems when there aren't any, but in the cold light of day I feel very scared and sad when I think about what he did behind my back. Am I being unreasonable in still feeling upset?

OP posts:
richteasandcheese · 31/01/2020 13:41

No YANBU and he's a lying fuck who's gaslighted you in to shutting up. You're not crazy, this isn't something nice kind gentle men do, and I suspect he won't have stopped either

user1471449295 · 31/01/2020 13:50

YANBU. I think you won’t ever get past this. Not many women would. He isn’t trustworthy and has lied to you. He obviously has a thing about escorts. This won’t ever stop. He will just get better at hiding it. Sorry OP. You are with more

user1471449295 · 31/01/2020 13:51

*worth more

Aquamarine1029 · 31/01/2020 13:56

He has told me the matter is closed, shut and will not be discussed anymore

Oh really? How nice for him. If I were you, I would be telling him he will now be discussing things with my solicitor.

You can't trust him. The marriage would be over for me.

WishICouldThinkOfAGoodName · 31/01/2020 14:02

This is unacceptable behaviour from him and he has no right to manage your feelings about it. Many many women would feel the same as you do. The only way, if it’s possible, to move on from this is for him to discuss it with you. Problem is, you’ll never trust him again.

Dontlikeoranges · 31/01/2020 14:05

He's already lied about his online searches, I wouldn't believe a word he said about this especially given his 'this matter is closed' stance. Why on earth would he have been searching for local hotels if he didn't intend pursuing this? I'd be digging deeper if I were you

Pinkbonbon · 31/01/2020 14:06

Umm..I was entirely with you until your sainsburys melt down xD

Sorry but if it's that bad, it's over. Stop flogging a dead horse.

I don't really see how looking at photos of local escorts is much worse than looking at porn tbh. One step worse I guess as it hints at possible intention. But I wouldn't be cool with porn either do I'm bias

But I don't know how you can be like 'he gaslighted but now things are OK'. Wtf would you stay with someone you know was gaslighting you?

ActualHornist · 31/01/2020 14:13

Jesus I would never be able to cope with someone actually physically cheating on me

He has admitted exactly as much as he needed to. And now, apparently you need to forget about it.

Ask your friends and family. Ask them if it’s normal to be searching for anal escorts, especially with ‘no intention’ of actually meeting with them. He won’t open up, so canvass opinion elsewhere. Bet he’ll love that.

He is a liar and a cheater who has put your sexual health at risk. You deserve better.

ActualHornist · 31/01/2020 14:14

There was no evidence in call logs, messages etc to show he had actioned any of this but there was a search for hotels in our area too

So he deleted the calls and texts. Pretty easy to do and no hidden settings.

FlaskMaster · 31/01/2020 14:18

He was looking up local prostitutes and hotels to use them and cheat on you, deleting the evidence and then lying about it. Get a sexual health check ASAP and LTB.

YasssKween · 31/01/2020 14:22

Do not waste your life on this man.

He has let you down too hugely to make up for it.

Sometimes sorry (though he barely sounds it) isn't enough.

And unfortunately sometimes love isn't enough.

Sometimes things are too broken to fix.

Can you imagine looking back in 10/20/30 years and living the life you've been living since you found out?

Confidence. Security. Genuine closeness. Trust.

All that can be yours but not with this man.

I felt physically sick reading that someone's husband searched "anal escorts (hometown)" and I don't even know the two of you.

He is cruel and weak and does not deserve your efforts to fix it. He isn't even trying as hard as you, think about that.

I'm sorry love, get out. As soon as you can and start your new life x

Shoxfordian · 31/01/2020 14:56

He was looking up escorts presumably to book one of them. How do you believe him if he says he didn't use one? You need a full sexual health check and a divorce. He should have been begging for your forgiveness not telling you he doesn't want to discuss it and it's not a big deal

HisBetterHalf · 31/01/2020 15:01

He has told me the matter is closed, shut and will not be discussed anymore
Tell him that's not up to him

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 31/01/2020 15:03

I'm sorry I'd put money on him having cheated. You don't search for hotels if you haven't any intent. And there is so much porn out there including anal / prostitutes that I don't believe he was 'just looking'. He was very good at covering his tracks as well, it wasn't just an idle search.

He has cheated on you, he has lied to you, and now he is getting pissed off with you for not 'getting over' something that would break most marriages. He isn't coming across as having any empathy to realise how devastating this is for you, he isn't coming across as sorry, he isn't coming across as caring about you at all.

I think there may have been a small chance at forgiving him if it was a one off due to a specific situation (eg you being ill / travelling all the time / marriage issues etc), he had admitted it straight away and been completely honest about what went on, and was doing his best since then to make it up to you- being completely open with you, acknowledging your feelings are his fault, and trying to regain your trust by for example going to counselling.

Hes not sorry he's just pissed off with you for catching him and he will do it again

crispysausagerolls · 31/01/2020 15:04

I don't really see how looking at photos of local escorts is much worse than looking at porn tbh

Eh? Did you miss the bit where he was also googling local hotels, presumably to meet the escort in?!

He has either cheated or was going to. End it!

BarbedBloom · 31/01/2020 15:06

You can easily delete call and message logs tbh and he had already tried to cover his tracks by deleting history. I wouldn't believe a word he said. However, I also wouldn't stay with someone who gaslit me and instead of trying to reassure me and improve things, shut me down and told me to forget it. I would check your banking history for any large cash withdrawals around those dates

NoMorePoliticsPlease · 31/01/2020 15:09

There is no way on earth I could get past this. If my husband did this he would be history

lorettalemon · 31/01/2020 15:17

There's so much explicit porn readily available and for free that I don't accept anyone looks at escort websites and hotels unless they already are already using such services or have serious intentions to do so. I couldn't stay in a situation like this and I'm worried if op does then it will drive her crazy.
The description of the way he's reacting just makes me feel more convinced that he's already done/doing these things. I'm sorry op but I would be making an appointment with a solicitor if I were you.

saj90 · 31/01/2020 16:23

I caught my ex doing this. Gave him a second chance. And he did it again. The most unassuming, kindest person. He just didn't seem 'the type'. He didn't get a third chance.
Go and see this counsellor by all means, but relationships are built on trust. I can understand and sympathise with you. Flowers

yeraballoon · 31/01/2020 16:26

I'd have left him. He hasn't shown remorse, he's only sorry he got caught. He probably did meet a prostitute or would if he got the chance.
You deserve better.

Urkiddingright · 31/01/2020 16:32

He deleted his history so was clearly trying to cover his tracks, I’d put money on him also deleting his call log and messages to and from the escort. I think he’s cheated personally, he went to the effort of looking up hotel and now he’s completely shutting you down and almost blaming you for being angry at him. You have every right to be angry at him, any wife would be. I would leave him personally, he’s a tosser.

AmelieTaylor · 31/01/2020 16:36

You’re wasting your life with him

He’s gaslighting you & shutting you down. He only cares about shutting you up, not how he’s hurt you.

You’re losing your grip on reality trying to see if it ‘runs in the family’.

Leave him & go and LIVE your life!

HoomanMoomin · 31/01/2020 16:42

I wouldn’t even try to get over it. He cheated. He will do it again. Just LTB.

Guineapigbridge · 31/01/2020 17:31

I could never respect my husband again if I found out he'd done this. It's the women-as-objects mindset that disgusts me.

spongejack · 31/01/2020 20:28

LTB honestly yes not worthy of your love!