Jail for woman who convinced her friend to quit her company for a non-existent dream job

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AIBU-how on earth do you quit a job and get strung along nearly 7 months thinking you had started working somewhere without a wage?? What about interviews? On site meetings? All very strange and elaborate. What on Earth she got from creating these lies who knows but how did she not think it would catch up with her?

So bizarre it is it just me?

www.itv.com/news/granada/2020-01-29/jail-for-woman-who-convinced-her-friend-to-quit-her-company-for-a-non-existent-dream-job/

It is bizzare - that's why it is news

Totally weird story!

How peculiar! All I can think is that the convicted woman wanted to destroy her 'friend' from sheer spite.

I hope the victim appeals this sentence on the grounds of being far too lenient. After everything she put this woman through, and what she lost, that sentence just does no justice whatsoever. She'll be out on half the time.

She has 30 days from today to Appeal, I hope she does.

My ex-husband quit his job to go and work with his ex-friend. I had a feeling said friend was dodgy but exh wouldn't listen. After about 4 months with no pay, and I'd used up our penny jar for food/run out of petrol in the car, I dragged ex-friend out of bed, marched him to the bank and proved he was full of shit.

There are some properly fucked up people out there!

Victims have no right to appeal against sentences.

Hmm it is a weird story and there's not enough detail to work out how someone quit her job without ever meeting anyone from the council and the service she wanted to work in.

I suspect the accused was obsessively attracted to her victim and wanted to make her be grateful and adore her. Even though it was never going to work. So a very stupid plan. But we've heard of women trying to ensnare a man by trying to pretend they are pregnant and sometimes going to great lengths to keep up the lie. Small lies get bigger.

Of course it could be hatred too but I'm suspecting something more emotionally manipulative that could never last. And with very cruel results.

Spite. Sheer spite. She probably sent the initial email because she wanted to enjoy a feeling of power when her friend told her the good news.

Then it escalated.

Completely bizarre that anyone would quit their job without even having an interview. What did she expect?

There’s a more detailed article here about it. It’s a very unusual crime so I hope the victim is able to access any support or help she needs.

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/chief-bridesmaid-ruins-wedding-horrible-17651805

She must have been pretty senior at BT to have earned £50,000 in 7mths. And it sounds like the 'dream job' was more an admin role if she thought she'd be in charge of rotas. The mind boggles 😕

The victim sounds incredibly naive and the ex friend very ill.

@Lalala205 the report I read said ‘ While Judge Robert Warnock ruled Dove's scam, which effectively lasted between June 2017 and August 2018, cost Kimberley around £50,000 in lost wages, Dove made no financial gain from the fraud.’

So 50k over 14 months is roughly £42k pa, so a management salary I guess.

Or woman

There are so many errors in that letter she was sent but some scams are so convincing that you just don't realise it's all a con.

Alongside the jail sentence she had to pay the victim around £1500 compensation (!) and is not able to have any contact with her for 10 years.

Neither of which are enough.

I've noticed that people who want to work in jobs helping people, as the victim did, especially if they're passionate about the idea, can lower their expectations when it comes to the job. Easiest way to look at it is someone who has a corporate job leaving to work for the charity sector. They'll accept a pay cut and inefficient systems (which make their lives more difficult) because they want to be helping people. Were that salary and those inefficiencies in their previous job they'd have left a long time ago.

The victim had a dream of working in child protection. Someone lovely told her she could. She believed her. She didn't think her lovely friend would be scamming her. And it didn't start out dodgy either. We may not all have fallen for it entirely, but unless you don't trust your friends, you'd be unlikely not to have trusted her in the beginning.

The victim wasn't working in the fake job but kept being put off as to when the job would start. I think most people wouldn't be able to afford to let that go on for seven months, though.

Why did it take her so long to go into the council offices?
It's one of the first things I would do when told I'd got the job, rock up and want to informally/formally meet the people I was going to be working with.

Victims have no right to appeal against sentences

that's a great pity.. it does seem rather lenient...

Can you imagine it that had been posted on here from the start under AIBU for accepting this job?

there was a case up here in Scotland... similar whilst different but much worse than the case on this Thread .. 2 people committed suicide.. 1 person died in prison.... one of the most shocking cases of online manipulation/control I ever read...

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/18/mother-and-daughter-killed-themselves-after-being-targeted-in-elaborate-scam

and this was the woman who carried out this crime....

www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/17468875.conwoman-jailed-for-driving-a-mum-and-daughter-to-suicide-in-a-greenock-hotel-has-died/

Horrific...

Totally believe it could happen, I had a friend recently who became absolutely entwined in my life and then did two really fucking weird, no sense manipulative set ups over days of planning, only got caught because I’m a cynical distrustful bitch after being under my ex’s coercive control.

They made no sense, were totally weird and despite me cutting her off to this day she tries to manipulate ways to be back in touch such as making up joint friend contacts and getting her son to send messages to mine.

Some people are just batshit crazy.

I wonder what the motivation is for this sort of thing?It’s all so twisted.

then did two really fucking weird, no sense manipulative set ups over days of planning, only got caught because I’m a cynical distrustful bitch after being under my ex’s coercive control.

Good Spot... jesus

It’s very bizzare. I just cannot understand the elaborate way she’s conducted herself and thought it wouldn’t end. She must not of had a solid upbringing because she clearly thought this was acceptable. A load of mental health problems left right and centre.

I don’t get the 10 year thing either, surely life would do