To ask you to help me to work this out (holidays at work)...

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I have just been offered the perfect role. I work for NHS and have been looking for a role closer to home with less hours and today I was offered it!

I am struggling to get my head around working out holiday entitlement however (probably the excitement!).

The full time role would offer 27 days annual leave plus bank holidays.

I will be working 4 x 7 hour days (28 hours) with Friday's off.

How many days holiday will I be entitled to?
How many bank holidays will I be entitled to and how does this work - if I take a bank holiday off on the Monday, for example, but I am only entitled to a pro rated amount of that time, do I make up the time later?
One bank holiday this year will fall on my day off - how does this work?

Many thanks in advance!

21.6 days holidays plus 6.4 days bank holidays. Assuming full time is 5x7 hour days ( plus lunch break).

Work it out in hours pro rata to full time hours including BHs.

You will then be required to use 7 hours holiday for each day off. This gets over BHs falling on different days, usually lots of Mondays, but there will be 4 Fridays this year if you're on April to March for holiday year - Good Friday, Early May BH for VE day commemoration, Christmas Day and NYD.

That's not great for you, as you'll be forced to use 4 of your days on these days, whether you want to or not. OTOH, it guarantees you get these days off, which you may prefer but then it doesn't sound like you work for a 24/7 service.

I'm not actually sure what the full tome hours are. Think it may be 37.5 which is the norm for full time in these roles.

Does that work out at about 20 days if that is the case?

I guess I lump all the AL and BH together and accept I will need to use 4 days to cover the Friday bank holidays?

You'll get 28 of your days which includes bank holidays (so you'll need 3 of those 28 to cover bank hols for 20/21 payroll year)

OP youll need 4 to cover bank hols sorry, I forgot to count boxing day which will be a bank holiday on 28th December this year.

You wont need holiday for Friday bank hols, so you'll get 28 days but you'll need to use a day each for Easter monday, late May and August bank holidays and then boxing day.
The others are all on Fridays which is your day off anyway

There are different approaches for this and your workplace should have a policy that clarifies what approach they take.

Presuming that you are working 0.8 of a full time role, you would get 0.8 x 27 days holiday (which is 21.6).

Of bank holidays you should only get 0.8 of them. So in a week where there's a bank holiday you could work longer hours and still get the bank holiday off.

Yes, sorry, my mistake, if you don't work Fridays, you obviously don't need to use leave to take the day off.

But you do need to pro rata to work it out. If full timers work 37.5 hours per week, your annual allowance is 28/37.5 x (AL days + 8 BHs) days.

You might get slightly more than 20 days as NHS generally offers more AL than the statutory minimum. If it was 23 days + 8 BHs, you would get 23.1 days per year, which I think they're required to round up to 24 days. 4 days would be needed for a week off, and you would need to use a day for any BH that fell on one of your working days.

I'm not sure you need to know full time hours if OPs hours are fixed and regular.

If full timers get 5.4 weeks plus bank hols that's 7 weeks.

So OP will get 7 of her weeks, or 28 days including bank hols.

Or am I wrong? It's been a long month and I have brain ache

You need to work it out in hours I think. Then for each full week you want to take off you need to use 28 hours and for each day you need 7. I think full time is 37.5 hours. Do all your leave requests in hours.

Sorry so I think you are entitled to 196 hours leave a year. If you are due to be working on a day that is a bank holiday you will need to use 7 hours leave for it (assuming the service is not provided on a bank holiday).

If full timers get 35 days in total and work 37.5 hours then the calculation would be 28/37.5 × 35 = 26.1 days.

You're not wrong Funny, but as people often want to take annual leave in individual days rather than full weeks it's better/easier to work it out in days.

Op, you are working 0.75wte (28/37.5) so you get 75% of a full time holiday and BH entitlement, and because you work slightly shorter days than the norm (7hr days not 7.5) a leave day for you is slightly shorter when you work it out in hours.

So you will get 21.5 days annual leave ((7.5270.75)/7) and 6.5 days bank holidays ((7.580.75)/7). In 2020/21 5 bank holidays fall on a Mon-Thurs so you'll need to take those from your bank holiday 'pot', the extra can be taken as holiday, you'll therefore have 23 days to take as holiday of your choosing. Obviously if you book a week off that is 4 days not 5 to come out of your holiday allowance as you wouldn't normally work a Friday.

Thanks all!!! I think I've got it ha ha! I'm just really happy about the job to be honest