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To think this Supernanny family should've been reported for neglect?

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Jobseeker19 · 28/01/2020 22:11

I have just watched a crazy, old episode on YouTube featuring the Chapman family.

"Overwhelmed, two teenagers bear the brunt of caring for three young siblings and home-schooling themselves, so they ask Jo for help in getting their parents to step up to the plate."

One of the teenagers faints from fear of the father.

I am trying to find an update but cannot.

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ForTheLoveOfSleep · 23/08/2022 10:17

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OneFrenchEgg · 23/08/2022 10:34

The wiki says Brittany got married and had three kids after first going into the military

NippyWoowoo · 23/08/2022 10:41

Why tf has this thread been resurrected? 🧟

BeanieTeen · 23/08/2022 10:49

I’d like to think Jo Frost and the crew would have made the right call at the time based on what they’d really seen. But I would definitely take American ‘reality’ TV with a pinch of salt. Some of it is purposeful staged, they love overdramatising. I’ve been watching Gordon Ramsay’s kitchen nightmares USA lately, it’s entertaining but blatantly staged bollocks for the most part.

Jobseeker19 · 23/08/2022 10:53

How bizarre for me to click on my own zombie thread not knowing what it was.

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mrsparsnip · 23/08/2022 10:53

OMG, I am staying off Facebook. The amount of information people can dig up through random searches is incredible.

10HailMarys · 23/08/2022 11:02

recycledbottle · 28/01/2020 22:31

I'm from a big family and remember seeing this and thinking it was normal enough for big families. The mother and father were lazy enough but based on friends from big families, more common than you would think!

Although in this case they actually took the older children out of high school so they could look after the younger children. The teenage girls were looking after the younger children pretty much 24/7 while trying to complete home-school materials online at the same time. It wasn't just a case older kids chipping in with keeping an eye on the little ones after school until mum and dad got home. They were doing literally everything and no other life beyond that.

PutinSmellsPassItOn · 23/08/2022 11:42

I always used to wonder about that with the ' how clean is your house ' episodes......I remember one where the picture rails in one of the kids bedrooms were full of maggots and fly eggs that would fall onto their beds. 😶😶 Surely that would be reported??

CoffeeLover90 · 23/08/2022 11:50

PutinSmellsPassItOn · 23/08/2022 11:42

I always used to wonder about that with the ' how clean is your house ' episodes......I remember one where the picture rails in one of the kids bedrooms were full of maggots and fly eggs that would fall onto their beds. 😶😶 Surely that would be reported??

Oh god. That OCD cleaners, a kids house full of cat s**t it was amongst toys and piles of clothes, even the ones without animal excrement were bad enough. How do these people not get reported?
I also remember one super nanny episode where the dad kept a stick for 'discipline' wtaf?

mountainsunsets · 23/08/2022 11:57

mrsparsnip · 23/08/2022 10:53

OMG, I am staying off Facebook. The amount of information people can dig up through random searches is incredible.

Only if you don't lock your page down.

ZeroFuchsGiven · 23/08/2022 12:34

I am far from an overly emotional person but good golly 10 mins in and I'm in tears. Those poor girls.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 23/08/2022 12:38

Thanks for posting this @Jobseeker19 I am 17 minutes in and shocked to the core. I feel so sorry for those 2 poor girls. The mum doesn't give a shit about any of the kids. Why the F did she have the 3 extra kids? (the 3 little boys?) She is so nonchalant and uncaring, it makes my blood boil.

Also, as has been said, I also used to know (when I was a lot younger) quite a few families where the older girl(s) - never the boys - had to be a second mummy. I knew about a dozen sets of parents who had four to eight children, and every single one of the families had the one or two oldest girls looking after the rest quite often. And also doing washing and ironing and cooking and shopping etc. The chores were divvied up between the girls in the family. As I said, NEVER the boys. Boys were never expected to do 'wimmins work!'

Don't see it so much now, as I know very few families with more than 3 children now. But I am sure it still goes on.

Off to watch the rest now.

Bikeybikeface · 23/08/2022 12:39

@Jobseeker19 I wonder if I brought this thread back from the dead 🙈 I watched the episode yesterday and googled the family . It brought up this thread.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 23/08/2022 12:41

10HailMarys · 23/08/2022 11:02

Although in this case they actually took the older children out of high school so they could look after the younger children. The teenage girls were looking after the younger children pretty much 24/7 while trying to complete home-school materials online at the same time. It wasn't just a case older kids chipping in with keeping an eye on the little ones after school until mum and dad got home. They were doing literally everything and no other life beyond that.

Yes you're right. Although the older girls in big families used to be expected to play 2nd mummy, they were still allowed to go to school, and play out with friends sometimes. Agree that this supernanny episode is exceptional, and it's horrific how the 2 teenage girls are treated like handmaids.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 23/08/2022 12:42

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That can't be the same person. That woman is in her 50s. The girl off supernanny would only be 20-ish.

FatEaredFuck · 23/08/2022 12:57

I watch Supernanny now and think that most of the children needed specialised support for SEN not a TV show to get the nation to discuss how naughty they are nowadays and how shite there parents were!

Structure works well for children with and without SEN but there was so much opportunity lost for helping these adults understand their children rather than learn how to boss them around easier.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 23/08/2022 13:09

Watched the rest now. Have to say I find the dad in the family utterly loathsome! Doesn't give a shit about his daughters and how they're having their childhoods ruined! Angry Mum is almost as bad. DREADFUL parents. Hope them 2 girls are much happier now!

Youcanlaugh · 23/08/2022 13:21

I know this is a zombie thread but I’ve just watched that episode and my god those parents are absolutely awful. Can’t believe supernanny hugged the mum at the end! Those poor girls were clearly living in a abusive household, making them look after the little boys all day, doing everything around the house and not getting a proper education.

Jobseeker19 · 23/08/2022 13:27

I feel the same about Xfactor, when you rewatch some of the funny auditions you can tell that it is people with possible learning difficulties being exploited and humiliated.

Especially when you find out that the producers told them to sing certain songs and egged them on.

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Upstairsforthinking · 23/08/2022 13:36

I've seen some old Supernanny videos circulating on TikTok and I've been quite disturbed by some. There was one where the parents had triplets who were 3 and an older daughter aged 5. They used a wooden spoon to smack theirs bums which by the looks of it, happened multiple times a day.

In one clip, one of the younger children says sorry, and the Mom says I forgive you, cuddles him and then smacks his bum. How fucked up is that 🤬

TheNefariousOrange · 23/08/2022 13:47

FatEaredFuck · 23/08/2022 12:57

I watch Supernanny now and think that most of the children needed specialised support for SEN not a TV show to get the nation to discuss how naughty they are nowadays and how shite there parents were!

Structure works well for children with and without SEN but there was so much opportunity lost for helping these adults understand their children rather than learn how to boss them around easier.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but this TV show was early 2000s. Even then SEN was around but not to the extent it is now. I vaguely remember adults blaming everything on "little-shit-syndrome" when actually, nowadays that would probably down to an actual unmet need. I know lots of adults who went through childhood in this time and SEN never got picked up because so much of it was just unknown by the general public and it wasn't until their late 20s/30s that someone turned around and said, "yes, you need to get tested for ADHD/ASD/dyslexia" etc.

mam0918 · 23/08/2022 15:05

They WHERE done for child neglect, they devorced the mother remarried and the kids have all grown up.

Brittney joined the military but left and now has 3 children of her own, Moriah also married and relocated to new york & Ethan is a youtuber (not seen much posted on Cole or Quinn but I havent looked far).

Lbo · 16/09/2022 22:45

If universal childcare, paid family leave, real vacation time and prioritization of family were available, this kind of situation would happen less frequently than it does. Honestly I think the mom probably had post partum depression. Unbelievable that this could occur. The US has none of the family support of more group oriented cultures and none of the policy mechanisms of high income, well educated countries. It tears families apart. The mom should be able to have a career, the dad a career, the girls a high school education and the other kids a childhood.

StaunchMomma · 16/09/2022 23:11

I saw that recently - it's doing the rounds on facebook.

It's definitely one of the worst eps I've seen. That poor girl's stress levels must have been through the roof if she fainted purely because they were speaking up for themselves a bit, and in a safe environment with Jo there!

I bet it went right back to how it was after the cameras left.

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