Holocaust remembrance Day.

[Drabarni]

To want to draw your attention to this, if you are unaware, of course.

We know that approx 6,000,000 Jews were killed during the holocaust, just murdered for their race.
I would like to point out that other groups shouldn't be forgotten or glossed over because of the sheer numbers of murdered Jews.
The disabled, homosexual, anyone who didn't fit with Hitler's ideal.

With the rise of Neo Natziism, anti semitism and racism throughout Europe and the US, we can't afford for this to take hold again.

The atrocities weren't a result of the second world war, it was a systematic plan starting from the early 30's in Germany.

Another group affected were Roma, it's suggested that more than a quarter of European Roma were targeted, even Britain, but thankfully they were thwarted.

I'm aware of this as I am Romany/Jewish, but realise that I wouldn't, if I didn't actively seek the information.

www.un.org/en/holocaustremembrance/docs/paper9.shtml

You don't have to answer the questions and

I agree, never forget and remember all those who were murdered. Equally those who were murdered under communist regimes (who dont have a collective remembrance). Far more in number than those who died under Naziism - but forgotten, sadly.

I went to a ceremony and prayer this morning. There were a group of children from the local girls school there, who had just heard from a concentration camp survivor.

That service was, well it ought to be made compulsive viewing for everyone on the planet.

Very moving espically the story of the lady who was but an Eight year child when she arrived there.

I see its on iplayer for a year.

I have been in tears off and on all day. The news report where two elderly women met for the first time since being children in a concentration camp was so moving. They just hugged each other.
It is vital we don't forget and that we never give history the opportunity to repeat itself.

Whatts that poem First they came for the jews and I did not speak up because I am not a jew……Then goes on to say other groups such as socialists. And regarding will it happen again, what happened to the Muslims in Burma in the other year? What is happening to people in China? It does go on.

Its beyond belief tbh that anyone has voted YABU

A few years ago I met two holocaust survivors who speak to schools about their lives.
Hearing their stories and seeing their tattoos will always stay with me.
Both had lost children to suicide which they explained was common amongst survivor families meaning the loss of lives continued down the generations.
What a terrible loss were all these people to the world.

I remember my childhood GP (doctor) had his concentration camp number tattooed on his wrist. Obviously he was one of the lucky ones but the rest of his family perished. 😢

Went to visit my dad and family. The perpetrators are not sorry. They would do it all over again.

Most perpetrators of the holocaust are dead.

Watch “The Windermere Children” 👍🏻

Watch “The Windermere Children” 👍🏻

Yes do!, started looking at on iplayer late last night, those poor poor children:(

Inhumane Nazi swine, no they were much much worse. The worse bit was they all belived it and some still do:-(

The BBC documentary Auschwitz: The Nazis and the 'Final Solution' should on shown to all children before the leave school. Probably Schindler's List too.

@june2007

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—

 Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

I despair at the "never again" message because it WILL happen again, and what can any of us really do about it? We can't overthrow Trump or Putin or Erdogan or Boris Johnson.

It probably already is happening again, in China and other places.

And anti-semitism has never gone away. At my synagogue on Saturday my friend showed me the stab-proof vest he has to wear when doing security on the front gate. What can we do about it?

Schindler's List Best film ever made that I reckon!

And anti-semitism has never gone away.

Yes, it’s awful and yet you don’t mention that well known anti-Semite Jeremy Corbyn in your list.

I am a survivor of a concentration camp. My eyes saw what no person should witness: gas chambers built by learned engineers. Children poisoned by educated physicians. Infants killed by trained nurses. Women and babies shot by high school and college graduates

So, I am suspicious of education

My request is this: Help your children become human. Your efforts must never produce learned monsters, skilled psychopaths or educated Eichmanns. Reading, writing, and arithmetic are important only if they serve to make our children more human

@Bezalelle
I just don't understand this. I think I'm a reasonably intelligent person but why why why are people anti-Semites? I read as much as i can but still can't understand.
Similar to racists I suppose, it makes me ashamed of the human race.
I watched a programme about Belson this evening and thought about how often I feel stressed and hear others complain about feeling the same, we have no idea 😔

Belsen

Can I just mention that as well as the Jews and the Roma, the Jehovah’s Witnesses were part of the holocaust. They had to be identified with a purple triangle.

I’m not a Jehovah’s Witness but I have a huge amount of respect for them. I think they would be regarded as less of a joke if their suffering in the holocaust was mentioned more

And yet over ten million voters supported an institutionally antisemitic party in the last General Election. .

As far as I know, though I'm sure @drabarni will know better about this, the Roma people generally have received little in the way of reparations for the Holocaust. Iirc, URO did take on cases for them, from the late 50s on, but generally, I seem to think that it wasn't terribly successful. I don't really know why - possibly because the majority who were left were generally behind the Iron Curtain (who were generally excluded anyway from the process) ? It's an injustice that lingers to today .

(Not, of course, that it's truly possible to make restitution for systematically targeting a people, but being largely excluded from the process surely adds an extra layer of pain)

I watched the bbc memorial and it was devastating. None of it was news to me but the horror hasn’t lessened since I originally learnt it.

I also recommend “Sophie’s Choice”.

Can the poster who mentioned that suicide is common in survivors children explain why that is? Thanks