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Looks like I’m going to be a single mum...

101 replies

Changename5 · 25/01/2020 16:59

I’ll try and keep it brief!

My fiancé and I have been together several years, was very serious from the very start, as we’d been friends for around 10 years beforehand. We have a DS who’s almost 2, and for the last 10/12 months, I’ll admit we’ve had some rough patches (mental health struggles for both, money worries, communication not being what it should), but I thought we’d worked really hard to overcome all of our issues, which he agreed with.

Mental health is back on track for both of us, we’d recently been talking about when to begin ttc, and all conversations surrounding our relationship have been positive (he’s very happy, he can’t wait to grow our family, etc), up until a few weeks ago when he sat me down and told me that he doesn’t want me to worry about it yet, but he’s concerned that partly due to a period of what he feels was a lack of affection and some guardedness from me a couple of months ago (he’s right that there was a week or two like this due to something I found out he’d done. Nothing awful or relevant but I just wasn’t feeling as cuddly as I usually am!), he has subconsciously put up a bit of a wall between us, and whenever he’s experienced this in a past relationship, he’s never been able to recover it.

He was very reassuring during the conversation, and life continued as normal, including physical affection, he said he felt much better just from having spoken about it etc. But then fast forward about a week later and he’s started to withdraw, telling me he needed time to think.

We’ve now come to a bit of an impasse where he feels as though there’s nothing he can do to change the way he feels, though he’s devastated about it, and is repeatedly stating that the spark is ‘not going to come back’ because he’s been through this before. Which I find incredibly frustrating and hurtful, that he can make that assumption purely on comparing previous relationships to ours (has always said he never truly loved someone until me, and doesn’t have any DC with anyone else, both of which significantly change things even aside from the fact that every relationship is of course different).

He said he would love to try and still be a family because he still adores my company, still loves me and always will, and obviously doesn’t want a ‘broken home’ for our DS, but doesn’t want to risk hurting me down the line if he’s right that nothing changes and he then decides he wants to see other people.

I’m completely heartbroken. I don’t know how he can have been telling me he’s so happy etc less than 2 months ago, and now not even want to try and fix this together. I just can’t imagine giving up on him so easily if the situation was reversed. And the thought of being a single parent and our DS never knowing his parents together, having step parents, half siblings, is just utterly devastating me and I don’t know how to cope with any of this. We’re each other’s best friends, I miss him already and he hasn’t even gone anywhere yet.

Does anyone have any advice? Aside from time is a healer, because I think if I hear that it might tip me over the edge into a full blown anxiety attack. (But genuinely, thanks in advance for any guidance and kind words)

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Oksunny · 25/01/2020 19:35

Sorry OP, but I agree with other posters there’s another woman. People (men & women) don’t walk out on their relationships, especially with kids involved for no good reason... unless, temptation.

BumbleBeee69 · 25/01/2020 20:05

Yip.. He's a dick.. he's laid the ground work for his leaving you and his DS.. what a TWAT Flowers

Ohtherewearethen · 25/01/2020 20:09

If he's not sure if he wants you then he doesn't get you, simple as that. I think the only response to his cruel bullshit is, 'Well there's no going back from that is there? Do you want help packing? Just take a few things now and you can keep the rest of it here until the end of the week. I'll go out when you come by to collect it. I'll be in touch regarding seeing our son.' And as heartbreaking as it is, walk away, leave it at that. You can't live the rest of your life wondering if he fancies you enough or desperately forgiving him everything incase he says he'll go off you if you get cross with him. It's no way to live and I'm so sorry for you. In the short term it will be utterly shit but please think long term and your own mental health. Don't be a player in his cruel games. Wishing you all the luck. You don't actually know how strong you are until you have to be. Like a PP, I too was widowed. You can and will do it because what's the alternative?

returnofthecat · 25/01/2020 20:11

TBH, it sounds like the sort of crap a man says before leaving you and then marrying someone else after a few months. I would make your peace with this before it actually happens, so the shock isn't as severe.

I wish you all the best, but I think your relationship has probably been over for a while. The good news is, you are stronger than you think.

Naillig222 · 25/01/2020 20:19

I'm sorry to hear you're going through this OP. I was a single mum to my youngest and while it is hard, I got through it. My son has a much better life than he would have had if we were together and I'm sure you'll be the same.

As for your OH. I have to agree with the others. I would be very surprised if there wasn't another woman there somewhere. He has even planted the seed for that already. If he was serious about this 'wall', he would go to counselling. Not leave his family because of something that may or may not happen. It all sounds like a load of waffle.

user1471592953 · 25/01/2020 20:19

Sorry, OP - I also think he has someone else. The elaborate explanations make me suspicious.

StormBaby · 25/01/2020 20:21

Another vote for 'the other woman', sadly. Men are lazy comfort seekers. They don't jump ship unless there's a life raft.

My ex came out with all this bullshit about wanted a baby, pushing forward with wedding plans, then the next minute needing time to think, blaming me for imagined issues. As far as I was aware we were happy. Then one day he just got up and moved straight in with a mutual friend of ours who lived somewhere he felt was slightly more convenient for his needs.
It was the best day of my life!!

haveyoutriedgoogle · 25/01/2020 20:21

What a selfish drama llama he is.
If one week of not being as cuddly as usual is enough to irretrievably break your relationship from his perspective, well, he wasn’t very invested in the first place, was he?
Sounds like you may be well rid, though I know it doesn’t seem like it right now.
And how manipulative to make sure you know it’s YOUR fault and he can’t come back from it 🙄

Poptasmagorical · 25/01/2020 20:22

This man is abusing you, op. He's completely gaslighting you and preparing to blame the end of your relationship on you. You have done nothing wrong and his weakness is not your fault. Nor will it be your problem soon, because he is definitely checking out.
I agree that there's either another woman or he wants there to be. I also agree that he's a dickhead.

AnyOldSpartabix · 25/01/2020 20:23

Adding my voice to the growing chorus.

Don’t let him string you along. He’s made his decision and now you’ve made yours. If he’s “not sure”, then he can go be “not sure” somewhere else.

It’s not easy being a single parent, but it’s better to be a single parent with self-respect intact than a single parent who knows they were played for a fool.

You deserve better. Good luck. I’m a single parent now and my only regret is that I didn’t move out years earlier.

Rachelfromfriends1 · 25/01/2020 20:24

He doesn’t want to be with you.

He’s trying to let you down gently/in the least explosive way but the truth is probably that you won’t be able change his mind, if that’s what you’re hoping for. Whether he has someone else on his mind or not, he has mentally checked out of your relationship. Hence why he just wants to end it now & doesn’t want to keep trying. He doesn’t feel the spark, he doesn’t want to be together long term, he would be happier if you split up etc so he doesn’t want to drag it out anymore.

It’s shitty to hear but at least you can start to think about your future instead of wasting time with him. I wouldn’t have another child with him either.

mathanxiety · 25/01/2020 20:32

..he’s concerned that partly due to a period of what he feels was a lack of affection and some guardedness from me a couple of months ago (he’s right that there was a week or two like this due to something I found out he’d done. Nothing awful or relevant but I just wasn’t feeling as cuddly as I usually am!), he has subconsciously put up a bit of a wall between us, and whenever he’s experienced this in a past relationship, he’s never been able to recover it.

LOL, he wants no accountability to you but all the benefits of a relationship. You have no right to show any effects you feel if he behaves badly.

'Selfish drama llama' is spot on. I would go further and say 'completely immature' and even 'touch of narcissism'.

It’s been an ongoing conversation since we had DS as to what age gap we would want etc, and he’s always been the one to say he wants a small gap between them, can’t wait for a second, can’t wait to see him be a big brother etc,
I would add, 'excitement-seeker'.

I suspect - because he likes novelty (see baby Number 2) - and is manifestly unprepared for the day to day give and take of a real relationship, that he has found someone else he has his sights on, whom he will dump the minute she starts to express expectations of him or show that he has hurt her.

mathanxiety · 25/01/2020 20:35

Ask him for his timetable and leaving date. Suggest one yourself.

I would give him no more than 6 weeks to get accommodation sorted for himself.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 25/01/2020 20:44

@Oksunny that's bullshit. I walked out on my marriage when my DS was 10 months old purely because I knew I didn't love my husband romantically any more. I loved him as a friend but couldn't bear the thought of intimacy with him. There was no one else involved, it just happens sometimes and I'm still single 6 years on.

DS is absolutely fine, me and his dad co parent and are on friendly terms.

helberg · 25/01/2020 20:44

but doesn’t want to risk hurting me down the line if he’s right that nothing changes and he then decides he wants to see other people.

He's already decided he wants to see other people. Sorry OP.
Even if he hasn't got someone particular in mind, he's thinking about "looking around". I had an ex who did this to me three times. Yeah, I was stupid - I took him back twice.
He'd come out with utter clap trap (and it always involved him being "devastated" but I hadn't paid him enough attention or whatever and he didn't see any future blahblah). Turned out both times he was having WhatsApp conversations with a selection of woman. I forgave him. But the third time I was to blame because I'd been "down" - so support me you idiot. Turned out he wanted to shag this other woman he'd met at a party. I kicked him out and then she didn't want him either. Then he wanted to weasel his way back in.

Your fiance is talking utter shit. I'm sorry this is happening to you.

What was the thing he did that made you distance from him? You say it's not relevant but I bet it is somehow.

Noshowlomo · 25/01/2020 20:51

So sorry OP, I also think he’s got his eye on someone else. He’s a shit bag for sure.

DeTwamps · 25/01/2020 20:55

The period of lack of affection is when he turned to someone else. He is now fully into them and so of course, you're irrelevant. It's over, so you'll have to deal with it. Lots of us have had to.

AlexaAmbidextra · 25/01/2020 20:57

but doesn’t want to risk hurting me down the line if he’s right that nothing changes and he then decides he wants to see other people.

That’s interesting that you’re in the very early stage of discussions and he’s already thinking about seeing other women. Is there the possibility that he already has someone in mind do you think?

DeTwamps · 25/01/2020 21:01

I often get the impression from women in relationships that they feel superior to single mothers. It tends to bite them particularly hard on the arse when they find themselves single too. You need to get over your issues about single parents. Your OP was subtly insulting to me as a single mother. Like as if I was somehow less than...... Not a nice attitude. My sympathy for you is limited for that reason.

thequeenoftarts · 25/01/2020 21:10

Better to be a happy single mum, then a head melted married woman whose partner is playing games and trying to blame YOU for all the problems in the relationship, that he has checked out of. Time to play hardball, pack his stuff say cya in court for my share of the house, pension, maintenance, childcare and see him 360

thequeenoftarts · 25/01/2020 21:11

But smile a day or two longer, get bank statements, pay slips, proof of savings etc and then tell him

ohfourfoxache · 25/01/2020 21:11

Fuck that

If he wants to end things then you need to tell him to sling his hook. He doesn’t get to play god like this - it’s not fair

Sadly he probably does have someone else waiting in the wings. Stop giving him options and chuck him - he’ll soon realise what he’s missing and how badly he’s fucked up

PepePig · 25/01/2020 21:14

@DeTwamps

I feel like you're projecting a bit, tbh. Very few people actively plan to be single parents. It typically tends to be something that is due to unfortunate events or something that is forced upon someone. I think it's clear that OP doesn't have an issue with single parents, but simply, had for over 10 years built into her head that she was going to be in a partnership with her partner, have kids with them, and they'd be a family. It takes time to adjust your thought process from assuming you'd be with X forever, to realising that X is trying to leave you high and dry without even faking an attempt to rebuild/work on things.

It's clear the events have only recently unfolded. She is, not surprisingly, unwilling to think about ending the relationship. She probably doesn't want to think about being a single parent just yet because she hasn't accepted that the relationship is (potentially/most likely) over. And that's okay.

I think in times of emotion, someone should be able to come online and vent/get advice and not be worried about being politically correct/not offending x, y and z.

The reality is, most people in relationships don't want to be single parents. They want to be in a conventional 'family' set up. They want to be with a loving partner who is the father to their children and have all the positives that it entails. That's not to say there's anything wrong with being a single parent, of course there isn't. A lot of people would be better off if they were. But it's a matter of preference. Just because OP prefers one thing doesn't mean it's an insult to the other.

Curiosity101 · 25/01/2020 21:18

I often get the impression from women in relationships that they feel superior to single mothers.

As a married mum I certainly can't speak for all of us but personally I am in awe of single parents (male or female). Raising children is difficult, raising children without a second pair of hands in the same house is even harder. You're awesome Smile. But perhaps that's cause I have always been raised by a single parent.

Honestly - props to all single parents. And to the OP - if you do end up a single parent it'll take time to adjust... but you will adjust and once it's your new norm you'll be so glad you don't have this emotional drama and you can just enjoy your DS growing up.

Goodgollymiss · 25/01/2020 21:27

Honestly I would ask him to leave immideatly... I would be curt, not difficult per say but certainly not understanding . He will soon realise how he feels if all his options are removed... somethings the grass is not greener... sometimes it is! Whatever happens you will be ok Flowers