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AIBU Indecisive husband: transport

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magnoliastellata · 25/01/2020 12:50

A couple of years ago I decided to change my 12-year-old mum-mobile seven-seater, which had served me well but was beginning to feel as if it was reaching the end of its life. I didn't want the clutch or suspension going when I was out with children or elderly rellies. My DH decided to take on my old car for a few months while he looked for a small van for his new business. Month after month he'd go and see vans and go for test drives but could never decide on one, or whether he wanted used or new, or how to buy it – lease or cash or whatever. Too many variables and he is terrified of making a wrong decision. We must have spent hundreds of hours with him boring me to tears with his endless 'Should I do this or should I do that?' rambling. These aren't conversations, he doesn't listen to advice.

Anyway, on Thursday the clutch on the old car, which had been playing up for weeks, finally went on a busy roundabout. He didn't have breakdown cover for the car ('I'm getting rid of it any day now, no point in wasting money...') so he called me to sort out a breakdown truck and transportation home.

I told him to go and buy a van, any van, or at least rent one, yesterday and he borrowed my car to go off and do that. Except he didn't. Too many choices, doesn't know what to do for the best, in a panic. All stupid as we have enough money to just buy a newish van outright without even thinking about it. This morning he was supposed to go and just do it, but instead he's spent the last few hours talking to his brothers and friends about what they'd recommend – and of course, one swears by Fords and the others hate Fords and so on and so on, till apparently there isn't a single van manufacturer in the world he can trust.

Now he's announced that he needs a vehicle for the full day on Monday and Tuesday and so he'll need to use my car (for which he's insured). It's true that I can get to work fairly easily on public transport or by asking for a lift from a neighbour who works in the same company as me – but why the hell should I do this? He's an adult. He earns as much as me and he has no money worries. I found myself shouting at him that I'm not his mum and he's an adult and needs to stand on his own two feet.

Most of the time he's okay, it's just these occasional big decisions where there are endless options that seem to drive him over the edge. Please don't suggest that I go out and buy a van for him because if I do and there are problems he'll just go on and on about how I shouldn't have bought a Ford or a Citroen or a Vauxhall or whatever.

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TreadLightly3 · 25/01/2020 12:52

How about roping one of his friends or brothers (whoever is most persuasive with him) to come over and take him out to buy a van that day? You would have to set this up in advance of course so could explain then how desperate the situation is!

FreshStart01 · 25/01/2020 13:02

YAVNBU! Not quite grounds for divorce ;-) but how infuriating. Have no advice other than to play hardball and tell him no, he can't use your car (can you create some external meetings or appointments for Wednesday or Thursday or whenever he's next likely to need it, so you have a good reason to say no to him (not that you should need to do that, I know)? Or tell him he'll have to drive you to and pick you up from work so it inconveniences him and not you? But basically he's being a tit and I'm not surprised you shouted at him.

magnoliastellata · 25/01/2020 13:03

That's a good idea. He's been out looking with a mate in the past, but his mate had his own agenda.

It does my head in. DH knows that what he needs is a smallish van (Caddy-sized) but he keeps coming home with brochures for larger vans on the 'But what if I ever needed to carry something bigger?' basis. I feel like I'm the only adult in the house at the moment.

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MaybeNew · 25/01/2020 13:32

You need to be really blunt. As in, “ You are behaving like a particularly annoying toddler. You need to make a decision and if you can’t make a decision, then YOU need to live with the consequences and not me. You are not more important than me and cannot take my car when you have no transport. This whole drama has gone on so long that it is making question whether I want to have sex with you. I only want to have sex with an adult and you are not behaving like one.”
Hopefully that will work..

MitziK · 25/01/2020 13:34

Tell him to lease whatever he likes the look of so that he can decide what works best for his needs/change his mind if it isn't quite right. Other than that, start using taxis so that the expense bugs him enough that he doesn't rely upon your vehicle to save him from making a decision.

It's a lot of money to spend, so he's reluctant to make a mistake - if you put it to him that he needs a van but leasing will fulfil his business needs in the interim whilst making him sure of what is the best vehicle for him, not his mates, relatives or the bloke down the pub who hasn't driven for thirty years, he gets to make a decision but not a final one. And if he ends up leasing permanently, fine. It's a legitimate business expense.

Minky35 · 25/01/2020 13:37

Tell him he can’t have the car after this one time to try and force his hand into making a decision. We’ve found Mercedes vans to be good value btw.

fedup21 · 25/01/2020 13:38

I would tell him he can’t have your car because you’re using it.

NearlyGranny · 25/01/2020 13:41

If he uses your car once, there will be no reason to deny him the use of it permanently...

How did this man ever manage to leave home and get married?!

Topseyt · 25/01/2020 13:48

That would drive me round the twist. I wouldn't be letting him have my car either.

It can be a false economy not to have breakdown cover with an older car. I have it as an add-on with my car insurance, and when my last car was reaching the end I was glad I did. DH has breakdown cover for his too, and when his clutch went a few months ago he was able to get it transported to a garage in the next town, from where he was lent a courtesy car while his was being repaired.

Tell him to stop being an annoying twat and buy, lease or hire the vehicle he needs. Right now.

cstaff · 25/01/2020 13:56

There is still plenty of time left today for him to either lease or buy. If he doesn't that's tough - I guess you'll have to get it on Monday.

AlCalavicci · 25/01/2020 13:59

This would drive me mad too , I accept that it is a big decision and a lot of money but by the sounds of it he has had plenty of time to consider all the possibilitys so he should of made his mind up by now .
I would not lend him your car as this is just prolonging the decision.

If you can afford it I would get him to rent his short list of vans for a week or so, so test driving to see how they feel and fit in with his work requirements.
He should line up say 4 vans back to back to hire at the end of the 3/4 weeks he has to buy one

ElbasAbsentPenis · 25/01/2020 14:02

No advice but my sympathies - my DH is like this about every decision he ever has to make and it drives me nuts.

Mandarinfish · 25/01/2020 14:06

Just say no! Tell him he can't borrow your car on Mon/Tues because you are well and truly sick of this. He'll have to go and get a van today.

Berthatydfil · 25/01/2020 14:07

There’s no way he’d be having my car this week next week or ever until he sorted his own vehicle.
Why should you be the one to be inconvenienced asking girls lifts or taking public transport when he can’t get his shit together to make a decision. Fuck that.

Berthatydfil · 25/01/2020 14:08

Asking for lifts but sure where girls came from

Lunde · 25/01/2020 14:09

He sounds like an indecisive toddler and forcing you to play "mummy" to sort out everything for him - refuses to choose, wants you to organise the breakdown van (he's an adult ffs), wants to take your car because he's too indecisive ......

I think borrowing your car should be a limited time deal - if at all - otherwise your car is going to morph into "his car" in the same way as the old car. He needs to act or suffer the consequences

I might be tempted to tell him that either he chooses a van this weekend or you are going go out and buy one whether or not he likes it ... but then again you would playing mummy to him again

Elieza · 25/01/2020 14:10

I’d tell him to catch a lift with a mate or whatever but he’s not getting my car.

That should sharpen his mind. Hide the keys and the spare keys so he can’t steal it.

My pal bought a van but didn’t measure the inside area first and it ended up he couldn’t fit a kitchen worktop in. He fits kitchens amongst other handyman stuff. Just mentioning that it’s best to measure if you’re going to be regularly transporting large/long items rather than guesstimate the dimensions. If he’d only be doing one long worktop a year or something they’d be no point in a large van though.

If it were me I’d look at the main bits that go and check the prices. If you get a merc van I’d expect it to have dearer replacement parts than a ford. Just like cars. But I’m just guessing. Lots of places have sales on just now. Get him out tomorrow to buy something. With or without his mates.

If he doesn’t need to go into city centres he can buy a diesel. If he does need to them he’d best check out the emissions status of the van as high polluters won’t be allowed in many town centres in a couple of years time, when presumably he will still have the van.

Once he’d bought it if they couldnt let him take it right away I’d give him a loan of mine for a couple of days. But only once he’d bought it.

SmudgeButt · 25/01/2020 14:42

I needed a car and wasn't making any sound choices on what I was looking at and really couldn't decide. So I let my DH find something for me. He did a bit of research on size, tax, insurance and then took me to look at it. He was right, it's perfect. If your DH would allow to do the same then great. If not, give him 1 week's use of your car to look at what's available and then he's on public transport if he hasn't got himself sorted.

magnoliastellata · 25/01/2020 14:51

Thanks everyone. It's the fact that he's had 18 months to go and look at every van on the market and then question everyone he meets that means he's overwhelmed by choice. He's not so bad if it's just a choice of one out of three things.

I like the idea of him test-hiring for a month and I'm going to contact one of the dealers to see if I can hire a van for him next week. With a bit of luck he'll like it so much that the decision will be made.

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Elieza · 25/01/2020 18:27

Mind the national speed limit is lower for vans than cars. Just in case he forgets!

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