to think that men who have no fashion sense should let their wives dress them?

[eleusis]

I mean jeez where are Trinny and Suzanna when you need them?

YABU

Men have the right to dress the way they want same as women do.
Jsut cos you dont liek it doesnt mean there is anythign wrong with it. I dotn liek the way lots of people dress but then I dotn think they'd be too keen on the way I dress either

PS Anna, 'tis nice to agree on something.

Eleusis - agree entirely. You'd want someone to educate you, kindly, patiently and with good humour, into better ways, right? Teaching a man to dress well is a loving thing to do

YANBU. I am wracked with fear every time I buy something without DW's approval, in case I have to face her scorn. I bought a pair of jeans last week and could see her looking them up and down every time she saw them, itching to comment. We weren't getting on too well, so she didn't say anything 'til the weekend: 'Are they... black [turns nose up] they're a bit... indie aren't they?'

It's her fault for having a baby, leaving such vital decisions to my taste.

It's no wonder we wave the white flag and let our wives dress us. Path of least resistance.

... and IMO the unloving, uncaring path is leaving a man in ignorance

caroline get him to put it on then take a pic and post it on here

BUT it is the absolute right of a man, when he becomes a father, to set aside childish things and dress as a Dad should. Comfortably, practically and boringly.

@ "You'd want someone to educate you, kindly, patiently and with good humour, into better ways, right? Teaching a man to dress well is a loving thing to do "

Dh couldn't care less. He just couldn't give a shiny shite about clothes. He can't see the point other than to keep warm/stay decent. He certainly can't see the point of spending more than £10 on jeans or £5 on a shirt. No amount of education is likely to change that

DaDaDa - the very first time my partner left me alone with my stepsons for an afternoon (when he went to a rugby match) the boys cornered me and told me that I had to completely overhaul their father's wardrobe because they were too ashamed to be seen out with him on holiday

Don't think Dads can get away with boring...

My dh is quite receptive.

DSW "what are you wearing tomorrow"
DSW's DH "this shirt and these trousers"
DSW "oh... head to toe brown then? Maybe the blue shirt?"

DSW's DH "OK" [sheepish grin]

Actually it's maybe more "give a man a fish" than "teach a man to fish" but hey ho

TigerFeet - you can educate a man into caring about his appearance ... by explaining how much more attractive you'll find him and want sex much more often, for example

Oh Anna, now that is mean... but funny.

Mean? It works very well in our household . Best bribe out.

Perhaps he assumes that if he dresses in boring clothes I will be more likely to claw them off him

That would be a very male thought pattern

I'm also quite concerned about what goes on under the clothes - grooming etc - we've made a lot of headway on that side as well (though it helps that he changed from the food to the cosmetics industry since I've known him).

He now pumices his heels at night and applies cream... never thought I'd see the day

I don't mind boring closes, it's clothes that don't match. Like a lumberjack shirt with white tennis shorts and cowboy boots. No one has the right to wear that in public.

(not that anyone in my house would wear this particular combination)

dh works in the food industry

He is well groomed though. I did put my foot down about excess hair.

(I work in the food industry too and my dress sense probably leaves a lot to be desired too)

"Don't think Dads can get away with boring... "

And here's me thinking it was one of the few perks.

DaDaDa - nope. Sorry. Start reading those fashion magazines now.

I've spent half the week doing reccies for our mega-clothes shop this Saturday - for the boys only

TigerFeet - yes, when I met my partner he had been in the food industry for ten years and it showed . Now he's been in the cosmetics industry for four and it's beginning to show too .

southeastastra - God that is so tempting. The thing is I am dreading him taking it out of the bag, I will collapse in a heap of laughter.
I disagree about dressing men. My ex husband was very well groomed and very well dressed and to be honest it was an aspect of him that bored me in the end. My partner is just not bothered and I love him for it.... epaulets and all.
I think I will take the photo southeastastra.

If you think I'm wearing those ridiculous skinny jeans and a pork pie hat you've got another thing coming!

Anna - when you say he had been in the food industry 10 years and it showed - do you mean he had 10 years' worth of Canteen Medallions down the front of his shirt?

I don't know your shape so couldn't comment on skinny jeans.

My daughter (2.9) has a pair and they look fantastic

Where do you shop?