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Most people think maternity leave should be abolished?

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PlomBear · 17/01/2020 16:41

I am very pro parental leave but reading comments here www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7891605/amp/Sacked-having-baby-Scores-firms-pushing-female-staff-falling-pregnant.html I’m wondering if most people are anti pregnant women?

“It's a huge burden on small businesses, which is why I don't employ women who are young enough, but don't have children. My business couldn't stand paying someone to be off and employ someone else to take their place temporarily and then as we all know, the majority once you've paid them up, choose not to come back.”

“In my day when you were pregnant you gave up your job to bring up your child.”

“Its completly unfair to be made to hold a job open for a woman to have her baby. Its the womans chose so why should an employer be punished. The law is an ass.”

“Mothers should be with their children looking after them and teaching them to be future good adults, It's a choice children or career not both.”

“I think that companies should be able to put a clause in their contracts to say if they fall pregnant in the first 5 years then they forfeit the right to maternity pay and leave and are breaking their contract. Why should companies have to keep jobs open for them to may or may not return. I have never had children so never entitled to time off or maternity pay at the end of the day you choose to have children and this can be timed to not affect a job. Also they are taking a job and money from someone else.”

Reading the comments I feel like I’m back in the 1950s when teachers and nurses had to be unmarried!

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Notborisjohnson · 18/01/2020 08:05

This sums up why I find it hard to return to work in the tech industry.

unfortunately I do get asked if I'm planning more kids, and when I say no they don't believe me. Now the feedback also states I'm older than other candidates ( I'm mid 30s).

So I'm both too young ( childbearing ) & too old & inflexible ( compared to other candidates with no children )

I have named & shamed locally.

Anyway just sharing my experience as sad as it is

Cornettoninja · 18/01/2020 11:55

How is this any different to if I just found a new job and left? I’d still need to be replaced, I’d still be taking my skills and experience with me

It isn’t.

The problem is some employers attitudes to the very concept of maternity rights. They won’t let go of that particular misogynistic stick unless it’s prised out of their stone dead fingers - which is why it had to be legislated for because even a bunch of old white upper class misogynists in power can see the benefits for wider society.

Some bosses/managers need therapy in my experience. They take everything so personally (whilst claiming to be business-like). They’d take a divorce better than they do an employee daring to have a life outside of work or leave.

Employing human-beings means taking on societal responsibilities and accounting for any financial impact of that. Whether that’s sick pay, minimum wage, maternity pay, costs associated with having a safe work environment small business that can’t afford it just aren’t viable.

You don’t get to profit off the back of employees lives.

StatisticallyChallenged · 18/01/2020 12:00

No, you're right in that it doesn't have to be the same role but due to where the company is at the moment it would be very hard for us to do anything in terms of restructuring/redundancy. And I think we unfortunately do have a game player on our hands. I say that as someone who has children and has bad pregnancies - we have unfortunately caught ourselves a lesser spotted piss taker.

I am in no way opposed to maternity leave/pay btw.

robyno · 05/02/2020 11:32

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