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To sack my conveyancer?

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Movingissues · 15/01/2020 05:29

I instructed a conveyancing solicitor prior to us securing a new build on the recommendation of a friend. We exchanged a few emails as she’s not in our local town, and all good. We’re part exchanging our property, so she sent some questions over about our house just over a week before Christmas. I replied the next day, and didn’t hear back. I chased her last week to see if she’d had chance to look at my email. Still no reply, so I called and left a message on Monday as we’re supposed to be exchanging this Friday. No reply again, so I called again yesterday. I was then sent a flurry of emails saying she’d not received replies to various emails, which it turns out have been because she’s misspelled my email address (think [email protected] instead of [email protected]).

I called a third time and expressed my concerns about my details being sent out to a random person, and I still haven’t had the courtesy of a call from her, although her assistant called me late yesterday to check I’d received the documents Hmm Every time I’ve rang, I’ve only been able to speak to the receptionist/switchboard operator as she is always on another call Hmm

So she has completely broken my trust as she’s now breached data protection by sending personal details out to the wrong email and there is now the potential for someone with the same name as me also knowing my current address, the fact that we are selling, my DH’s name, our new property address and how much we’re buying for. I understand it’s fairly low risk as my DOB wasn’t on there, but I would have thought a solicitors firm should be better at that.

I’ve not paid her anything yet, as the letter asking for payment on account to start the work hasn’t come to me until yesterday, but clearly we won’t be exchanging on Friday as the searches won’t be back in time.

AIBU to cancel my contract (that I’ve not signed) and find another conveyancer? Not sure what that will mean for the new build situation if I tell them we’re changing solicitors though Sad

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Ttcbabybennett · 16/01/2020 00:13

Just re the worry about someone having your details, send that email address a quick email (doesn’t have to say anything other than hi) 9/10 you’ll get one back saying couldn’t deliver / email address not found if she’s put a random digit in there. That should at least reduce that worry for you :)
Re the appalling service and never getting to speak to her on the phone I’m afraid that’s pretty standard service at solicitors :/

CreekIsRising · 16/01/2020 00:34

People seem to lose their minds about conveyancers but I've never yet heard of one where a sale or purchase was actually lost due to a conveyancer so as long as it all goes through and you legally buy or sell what you wanted to buy or sell I don't see the big deal. No one ever died from not having a phone call about local authority searches left unanswered for a couple of days. Maybe get a bit of perspective?

Movingissues · 17/01/2020 07:41

@Butteredtoast55 - nope not Derbyshire either.

@NeverTwerkNaked - I have tried to get in contact for 3 weeks. No I haven’t chased and chased, but that’s because I recognise that people are busy, especially in the world of email that we live in. Sorry but I think that the solicitor or their assistant/paralegal/secretary should also take some responsibility to check why emails going back weeks have been left unanswered when this goes against the norm for the previous history. A quick 5 minute phone call a month ago would have resolved this.
And you say nobody could have found out anything damaging, then you clearly know nothing about financial crime. I work in the industry and all it takes is the start of a small and seemingly insignificant breach, and if it gets into the wrong hands, they can easily build on the picture and within a couple of small actions, can steal identities very easily. Whilst I am probably not going to be that unlucky, I do think errors like this should be taken seriously. The cases are small but but can be devastating for families, so forgive me for not wanting to end up in that position. Hmm

@CreekIsRising have my first Biscuit Obviously this is a first world problem, but you have no idea what else is going on in my life at the moment. Even so, I’m not sure I was losing my mind Hmm And it was weeks not a few days. Not sure what the point of you posting was. My perspective is fine thank you.

As it is, my solicitor finally got in touch by phone yesterday and we sorted everything out. Although there was no bounce back from the incorrect email, so it’s a live account. Which means I’ll be keeping an even closer eye on my credit report from now on. But at least things are now progressing, despite missing the planned exchange date.

Thanks for all the replies. I am now sane again Grin

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BaolFan · 17/01/2020 07:55

No one ever died from not having a phone call about local authority searches left unanswered for a couple of days.

No they didn't, but for many people they have their life savings riding on these transactions. Quite often there are hard deadlines which cannot be moved and if you fail to meet them, it's game over and you've paid out quite a lot of money for the privilege of achieving nothing. In our case if it hadn't gone through we would have spent our savings and not been able to try and move again (negative equity).

Our sale and purchase went right to the wire. It went through because our broker was so horrified at how bad the service had been, they got the mortgage lender to threaten to remove the conveyancer from their approved panel and blacklist them.

You have to be so persistent and relentless with chasing to get things done. Not fun and incredibly stressful and frustrating.

FreckledLeopard · 17/01/2020 07:58

I've had awful experiences in the past with big standard conveyancing firms. So I subsequently learned to pay for a good service.

I've used a conveyancing partner at a small firm of solicitors for the past three or four transactions (selling and remortgaging) and she's been excellent. Yes, it can be more expensive but it's worth it. Happy to PM her details if you'd like them.

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 17/01/2020 08:54

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iano · 17/01/2020 10:17

How much have you agreed to pay OP?

TriangleBingoBongo · 17/01/2020 10:30

@BaolFan

There are never hard deadlines. Only empty threats.

I am a lawyer and worked in conveyancing for several years!

BaolFan · 17/01/2020 12:17

Mortgage expiration requiring full reapplication and revaluation in a falling market? Chain of 10 would have collapsed. Hardly an empty threat.

Hingeandbracket · 17/01/2020 12:34

You have to be so persistent and relentless with chasing to get things done. Not fun and incredibly stressful and frustrating.

*This - all the lawyers and conveyancers pleading overworked underpaid need to understand we are paying customers not annoying interruptions. If I could find a lawyer that paid their staff properly and didn’t overwork them, I’d use them- but I am not party to the info. In the meantime the need to constantly chase things leaves us feeling short changed

TriangleBingoBongo · 17/01/2020 13:12

That is an exceptional circumstance, not a rule. Given mortgage offers are valid for 6months and most lenders will agree to short extensions for those kind of circumstances.

BaolFan · 17/01/2020 13:50

That is an exceptional circumstance, not a rule. Given mortgage offers are valid for 6months and most lenders will agree to short extensions for those kind of circumstances.

I know it is not a rule - but we were talking about deadlines. You said there weren't any and I gave you an example of one. Completion by 5pm or funds had to be returned and the whole application repeated. No extension possible because the lender would not budge despite entreaties from our buyer, his conveyancer, our conveyancer, the EA and the relationship managers at both mortgage brokers!

CreekIsRising · 17/01/2020 13:58

You are annoying interruptions though. For an average conveyancer with 80 or so files on the go, if even a quarter of them ring up "for an update" every day, at minimum five minutes per phone call (which involves stopping work, closing file, opening file, reading, relaying information) that's an hour and three quarters out of every working day wasted.

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 17/01/2020 14:01

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MinnieMountain · 17/01/2020 16:33

I do title checking only now RunningAwaywiththeCircus. No client contact. This thread has reminded me that I love my job too Grin

TriangleBingoBongo · 17/01/2020 16:55

I am in house too now 🙌🏻

TriangleBingoBongo · 17/01/2020 16:55

There are no hourly rates in conveyancing now!!

Toomanycats99 · 17/01/2020 17:07

Well to add to my slow conveyancer woes tsb has a system failure today and didn't transfer any completion monies today despite telling my solicitor since 9am it had been done......!

Movingissues · 17/01/2020 22:19

@FreckledLeopard thank you, I think I’m all sorted now.

FWIW I haven’t gone for the builders solicitors nor a big conveyancing firm, but a solicitor (rather than a conveyancer) who was recommend to me personally. So she is more expensive, but I was happy to pay for the service. Which is why I was even more upset at the lack of any communication.

@RunningAwaywiththeCircus it wasn’t her that gave the date it was the builders. And I agree that she shouldn’t have done any work without a contract or funds, which is why I was amazed that she hadn’t been in touch asking why I hadn’t returned it or paid before 5weeks after it had been sent out to me. I have no idea what you mean by your comment on HCP’s as it’s not relevant to the conversation Confused

Sorry to hear that @Toomanycats99 - hope you manage to get it resolved quickly Flowers

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