To think people who post on social media trashing sites are so fucking sad?

[Lycidas]

There have been a couple of times where I’ve googled a YouTube channel (beauty bloggers, some mum blogs) and ended up on these sites - e.g. Tattle Life or Guru Gossiper. Thet comes across like a bitchy high school clique - threads devoted to rentlessly, gleefully mocking that person’s content and their personal lives. It’s one thing to say that they should be open to critique (especially when they’re contravening advertising standards) - it’s another for hordes of grown women - I’m assuming this is the majority user base - to pick up on and slate every little thing they post.

It not just ‘arghhh this channel is annoying for these reasons’ and leaving it at that. It’s non stop viewing and discussion of content that they purportedly despise.

Sample page:

tattle.life/threads/mrs-meldrum-69-tattle-me-2020-ed-manifesting-together-spouting-bull-forever.4280/page-4

AIBU?

If you post on these places my question is, why??

Hmm,
Not that I disagree, the people on there are waaaay too invested, but:
a thread mocking another thread mocking a blog?
there's quite some irony there.

Fair critique I guess, but I’m not mocking a thread specifically, but an online social trend. I’m also curious to see why people post on these places...

I don’t know about sad, but that sort of behaviour, to me, is just incomprehensible. I read a link to one once, and I cannot believe grown ups, probably the same grown ups who tell their children to be kind, can all congregate together and be so unkind, and viscous about another person.

I have teenagers in high school, who fall victim to people creating Facebook pages or snap chat stories about them - I’d love to be able to tell them that it’s a teenage thing, and adults don’t behave like that but it’s obviously not the case. Just another form of bullying really.

Meh. I find Tattle quite interesting. They have done an awful lot of work in getting the ASA to act over "influencers" doing adverts without disclosing that the item is paid for. They were also instrumental in getting Rebecca Meldrum to apologise for racist behaviour.

There's been one case of an influencer on Tattle under a fake name slagging off the competition - and I suspect there are more.

Some of the posts do seem a bit over-invested, but if you are going to flog yourself on social media for cash (and crucially your kids, with no regard to their privacy), then expect to be taken to task for it if you're found out lying about your motives.

I’ve had a wee look on Tattle and just wonder how people want to invest so much of their time Watching vlogs/stories just to report back and slag it all off. Also these people who are probably mostly women say blah blah they’re such bad mothers ignoring their children and so on, yet they’re sat on their phones laptops all day waiting for the next Instagram story to slag off.
People just need to be nice. What’s the point of being an utter dick for no reason.

YANBU, I had the misfortune of being daft enough to click on one of the site's you mentioned after someone had linked on a popular IGer's thread and I was curious... some of it's utterly vile.
These are presumably grown assed adults pulling apart someone else looks/family/ bitchy comments etc?
I'll never get that mindset to actively go and do that, some must be deeply unhappy with their lot to do so.

I actually don’t mind tattle especially pulling some of the awful accounts up.

Ah it's all different degrees of the same thing surely? You don't know what those people are like in their 'real' lives but have just sworn at them and called them sad/insinuated they're pathetic. Not everyone on things like that is homogenous.

I'm yet to meet someone in real life who has never bitched about someone or something behind their back and I'm sure many of us would be mortified if comments we'd made about other people or celebrities in moments of spite/annoyance/making fun of their mannerisms or outfits or personalities were shown back to us in print. Mumsnet can be absolutely appalling too and clearly we all have time on our hands if we're on here when we also have 'real' lives.

I don't agree with being unpleasant and making personal comments, nor do I use or read stuff like tattle but having just had a look (thanks to your link OP) I think some of it is fine- if anything I'm unsuprised there is an outlet for complaint for bloggers etc- they are largely charlatans out to make a buck from pretending various things, including the fact that they care about their 'followers' and the vast majority are hawking whatever sells, be that a sofa or a concept such as body positivity or whatever is en vogue and likely to get them more followers. It wouldn't exist if they weren't trying to sell something or put themselves in a position they might get a freebie or a book deal or whatever else. They 'chat' to followers and talk about them like they know them because that ups their engagement, which is how you increase your online visibility. None of it is particularly indicative of good morals nor is any of it good for most peoples self esteem or sustainability or mental health. It doesn't reflect a 'normal' affordable, healthy lifestyle.

That can be said without resorting to deeply personal comments or bullying though. I am not interested in the likes of tattle but also am not interested or invested in the fake money making opportunities of Instagrammers, the whole thing just seems a waste of time!

YABU for linking it though and giving it additional attention.

I actually don’t mind tattle especially pulling some of the awful accounts up.

Do you pull apart someone's looks/personal pull to shreds though, or do you just stick to "critiquing" their account?
As there's a difference.

Top sentence was supposed to be bolded as was a quote!

I think there is a difference between discussing the ethics of influencers (for example those who aren’t transparent about content they’ve been paid for, or high end freebies they’ve been given in exchange for promotion) and then those who just tear into how someone looks, their families etc. The former can lead to some important discussions on advertising in the digital age and the responsibility of being upfront about what exactly is being sold. However as much as those conversations happen, they can descend into personal attacks and cruel comments which aren’t necessary. People can be very bold when giving it the biggun online but in real life are meek and would never say anything like that to someone’s face.

No, people discuss celebrities all the time.. only different is these people discuss Instagram and YouTube “celebs”. Don’t think it’s sad at all really. Espically when these people can’t even directly post about these people as they instantly delete it and cry out that’s it “trolling.” cough Mrs Hinch cough

They are awful. I stumbled across one recently and some of the stuff said is so, so vile.

Espically when these people can’t even directly post about these people as they instantly delete it and cry out that’s it “trolling.”

Surely you can tell the difference between personal attacks and "posting directly about theses people" though?
There's a difference.

The controversy with Sali Hughes really opened my eyes to tattle.

I'm sure there are some unpleasant posters, as you get anywhere really, but by and large it seemed pretty innocuous.

My kids generation have grown up with YouTubers and influencers so have real life people to discuss them with. Personally I know a few like Mrs Hinch by name but I've never subscribed to a YouTuber or watched a vlog so if someone brought them up I wouldn't have a clue about details. They are basically people who are more eloquent than those who troll with quick disses and threats but the sites aren't particularly mainstream ime - I know of them thanks to MN

The problem with vloggers, influencers etc is that the industry isn't regulated like tv so there's quite a bit of dodgy behaviour going on like not disclosing if the ad is paid for so it's good that people pull the curtain from the eyes of the naive.

Espically when these people can’t even directly post about these people as they instantly delete it and cry out that’s it “trolling.”

I think this refers to the practice of deleting negative comments off social media and YT. If they were left to stand then they are less likely to post elsewhere because they've said their piece and it's available for people to read/ignore/debate

I read on here about an influencer trolling herself (or her husband?) using a fake account. The ability to delete negative comments and product reviews make SM look squeaky clean but it's an unregulated murky place.

I think those sites give people a space to bring up valid points and frustrations about influencers. If they posted on social media they would be inundated with calls of troll and haters by the influencers followers.

Tattle has some really interesting posts, unfortunately there are also so nasty posts on there pulling people apart for their looks etc which I don’t agree with.

I think this refers to the practice of deleting negative comments off social media and YT. If they were left to stand then they are less likely to post elsewhere because they've said their piece and it's available for people to read/ignore/debate*

Yes that’s what I meant sorry. If they didn’t delete negative comments (which aren’t about looks btw.. more valid points about buying fake followers, etc) there wouldn’t be any need for sites like tattle.

Just imagine if there was a place that trashed MN.......

I've just been on there reading about a person I follow. It's so nasty! Granted a few made some fair points but I don't understand following loads of people just to slag them off.

If I get bored with who I follow, I unfollow them.

Maybe I'm just too old for all this

But I get that influencers should declare ads. The ones I follow seem to make it clear when they are promoting a product. I'm not sure I have ever bought something simply because of an influencer.

I used to post on gomi back in the day, because I was so fed up of lying, deceptive bloggers. But gomi turned into the very thing its founder claimed to hate (you can't say anything against partypants or disagree with the cabal) so I left.

yes your on mums net you bitch