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Change in circumstances and losing friends :(

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AmbitiouslyFit · 04/01/2020 16:05

Hi all,

I hope this doesn’t sound goady..

I come from a background which is quite privileged, as a child I was sent to private schools and had so many connections due to My dads profession (not UK).

Things dramatically changed when I was 9, where my dad suffered a blow and our lifestyle changed completely. But even more so when my parents split and tension between them happened, we ended up in the UK (my mum is from UK) in hostels and council flats.

This is where I formed my friendships which I thought were truly deep and meaningful. I wasn’t used to the down to earthiness of such relationships because I feel we were mixing with upper classes in the country where my dad worked and the dynamics of such relationships are quite superficial. I found friendships without the added pressure of fitting into any expectations quite nice and liberating.

However we struggled as a family. And individually I struggled massively and had to choose between being homeless and enduring ill treatment for a long time. In which I found my friends support to be amazing. And they almost became my family. I don’t want to go through the details of the suffering but I had a lot of people especially my own family members look at me with Pitty thinkng and I was depressed.

Fast forward, and this is where it gets cheesy, I met DH and I guess the feeling of having some stability reignited my motivation to do something about my life. I changed things for the better because I was hoping to have kids and wanted to give them a good life. I started from scratch. I endured much humiliation. I went through infertility as well as issues with respectable accommodation with DH. Lived few years in places I don’t imagine many people would accept... the stress of it all affected me mentally and physically and caused several miscarriages.

But suddenly our circumstances changed, and life had a quick turn for us. We ended up in a nice flat in London, which we are now buying. Have 2 kids which are adorable. It was luck as well as hard work.. but mostly luck in that things just changed for us..

During my time of difficulty I isolated myself from friends as it was quite humiliating to share my personal struggles and I had very little money to even go out with them and it felt difficult having to explain any of that.. I kept in touch by phone..

But when my circumstances changed and I tried to get back in touch with my friends, I feel like they were happy. I told them I had been through difficulty and they understood and were sympathetic..

However when they saw how much life had a sudden turn to the better... I feel that every single one of them changed with me. They’re not even a circle of friends.. some don’t know each other.

I only have one or two friends who remained sinecere. I feel like everyone else has changed to become sooo bitter.

I have become so insecure because I don’t take for granted how life can change and I can lose what I have.. and I don’t want to be alone and friendless.. I am humble I think and I don’t ever judge and my friends know me.. I have gone out of my way to include them in my life and share any positive things with them such as those who are struggling I am always there for them.

I was quite shocked that many who I saw as the sincerest of all are somehow putting me down in many ways. I question where I need to update my relationship with them as to not be coming across as insensitive to their circumstances, but I’m not sure what it is that I’m doing aside from beinf the person I always was..

These people always had better circumstances than me.. I always was happy for them and never resented their positive aspects of life.. I honestly thought they would be happy for me and I’m very hurt to see that many many of the supportive people in my life dropped one after the other.

I’ve become very insecure about being myself with anyone. Even though this used to be the one thing I always got told I’m loved for, my friends loved me becshse I wasn’t fake and I was myself and down to earth.

I feel I can’t be myself anymore. I feel sooo rejected and soo alone. I feel so insecure about meeting anyone or making any real friends because I feel I don’t understand or trust friendships anymore.. I feel there must be something wrong with me but I also know that deep down I meant well and I never meant to hurt anyone..

My life is great. I have a good looking and kind DH. 2 beautiful kids after infertility issues. A very nice flat. But I lost all my meaningful friendships and relationships which were once all what I had and meant the world to me.

I’m not even a millionaire or someone who won the lottery. I’m just, no longer struggling. We are in debt but have a stable home.. we are skint most of the months but aren’t poor like before. I just am in a position where I don’t need to rely on anyone and can have a decent living. That’s it. It actuallt sucks I had no one to rely on for years not even in teenage years, I just learnt to accept it and move forward and build something for my kids so they don’t feel abandoned. That’s it. To many people this is just the norm.. but to my friends they knew me before and they can’t accept the big change I feel.

My friends had a stable home all along.. weren’t even poor.. so it’s not like their circumstances are bad and I’m highlighting that for them. They have normal lives and I just am a bit better in one aspect of it.. my problems are still the same but don’t affect me as much because I moved forward and built things for myself from scratch.

I don’t know why everyone’s so different to me. They seem intimidated by me. They like me but looking for ways to set me back and undermine me and throw in some digs. I’m shocked with them all. It’s like they’re competing with me and perhaps I wasn’t much competition before? Is that why I made many friends becshse I was not a threat ? I feel like I never really had true friendships and perhaps it was all about how they felt about themselves being surrounded by me and my non confident self? But to be fair they were friends with me before they knew my personal issues and I only opened up to very few at that time. But maybe my personality changed and became more confident?? I don’t know

Or am I missing something. I probably just never really knew how to make friends.

Sometimes I honestly don’t know whether I was happier back when I was struggling or now. I don’t mean to sound ungrateful.

I don’t know where I’m going with this. I just want to see whether I make sense to someone and get to the bottom of what’s going on with my friendships and if this resonates with anyone.

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AmbitiouslyFit · 04/01/2020 22:57

SabineUndine this is exactly what happened with me.

We were all nice and good until I brought them into my personal life and they started throwing some dogs about my house and my kids and parenting and husband and sounding super resentful

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AmbitiouslyFit · 04/01/2020 23:05

digs

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PlainJane28 · 04/01/2020 23:18

You are investing WAY too much time in these people. Your main focuses should be yourself, your children and your husband. People change, circumstances change. Friendships shouldn’t be this hard and if they are they really aren’t worth it. The ones that work are the ones where you may not have seen them or spoken to them for ages and one of you just picks up the phone or texts and it’s like you only spoke yesterday. Perhaps some of your friends need space too, perhaps they don’t want to include you in their lives or daily struggles. End of the day they were there for you when you needed them, and I’m sure you’ll be eternally grateful for that. Give them space to breath, make a bit of effort then give them time to come to you. If they make the effort back then great stay friends. If not then leave it be and just let it fizzle out. Find other friends or a hobby of some sort. It’s quality of friendship rather than quality too. Your post comes across a little goady at times and very me, me, me. Just relax a bit, if they have gone quiet it’s most probably not even about you.

PitterPatterOfBigFeet · 04/01/2020 23:25

It sounds a bit like you didn't want to know when you were struggling financially but got back in touch when things were going well - you may have come across like a show off. If loads of separate friends have suddenly ditched you it's very unlikely they're all jealous of you - surely some of your childhood friends have done well for themselves anyway. It is much more likely to be something you're doing to rub people up the wrong way. Your post sounds a bit preoccupied with class, status and wealth to be honest (the posh friends were all superficial and the friends met when living on a council estate were all down to earth - no mention of them as individuals) so maybe that comes across in person too. In fact the tone in general is just a bit odd.

KellyHall · 04/01/2020 23:28

Friends come and go. That's just life.

Some people aren't in it forever, they just all get along well when you're all living a certain phase of your life. Then you move to a different phase and not all of your friends move with you.

Don't ever stop being yourself. Just let yourself meet new people during each different phase of your life and be happy with their company while you have it, without any expectations of it enduring until the end of time.

Josette77 · 04/01/2020 23:33

If everyone in your life is responding the same way, it is probably something your are doing. This isn't to mean you are being rude or awful, but something has happened to put everyone off.

Aquamarine1029 · 04/01/2020 23:36

Why is your sense of self so dependent on what these people think? People who don't really even know you, btw. Stop over-thinking their perception of you and live your life. Friends come and go.

AmbitiouslyFit · 04/01/2020 23:37

Honestly none of them have ditched me. They’re the ones asking to connect. Asking to meet..

But the dynamic is what changed. They’re not supportive they’re actually invested in putting me down.

It’s not that I’m not giving them space honestly. It’s just their attitude in how they pick on me and my parenting and house and sound like they’re comparing every aspect of their life to mine and then finding my flaws and pointing them out to feel better..

My life can look amazing to some. Can look shit to others. I can be subject of envy or subject of pitty. Just like anyone. But why is everyone introduced to my new personal life free of struggles suddenly invested in bringing me down I’m really unsure.

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chuck7 · 04/01/2020 23:40

Hmm You say you were struggling? Embarrassed? And cut all contact with them basically. I wouldn’t be jumping for joy to hear from you again either. Did you stop to think about how they’re been since you ditched them? Sorry OP but we all have shit in our lives. It doesn’t make it ok to shun your friends because you were living in undesirable places. Confused

Josette77 · 04/01/2020 23:44

Can you give examples of these put downs?

AmbitiouslyFit · 04/01/2020 23:45

Josette77 that’s what I’m feeling is the likely option but just not sure where I’m going wrong

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plumpmom · 04/01/2020 23:46

You talk a lot about yourself and how your friends support you or don’t. Friendship is a two way street you know. Have you supported them? What do you bring to their lives? It sounds all about you. That’s probably why they don’t want to know. It’s too selfish and too much hard work being your friend. People can’t be bothered with all that palava. I’ve got one friend I’ve known for decades that I share deep life stuff with. The rest are all good time pals. We have a laugh. That’s the thing people want in their life. A bit of a laugh. What fun do you bring to your friends lives?

Rosspoldarkssaddle · 05/01/2020 03:51

Could it be that they invested a lot of time and emotions into supporting you, you then disappeared (as a thank you) and now you are back as a new, unfettered person who no longer needs that level of support? That may piss some people off. At no point did you offer them support during your time out. Now what they feel is annoyance tinged with jealousy? Some people thrive on rescuing people and don't do so well when they are rescued. Look forward not backwards. It is time to make new friends.

BunnytheBlueWhale · 05/01/2020 14:34

What do you think you have that they don’t? Why would they resent you?

AmbitiouslyFit · 06/01/2020 22:02

Ok honestly I am coming across weird on this thread but that’s because I started obsessing over this issue because it has recurred so much for a reason I can’t figure out. So yes im indulging in self pity perhaps and I’ll try not to do that.

What the couple of friends I’m talking about did is not something big it’s just the dynamic changed.

I used to have friendships that were meaningful where I can bare my soul and know that this friend won’t use it against me one day..

But now, it’s changed and it’s turned into a contest of one upmanship and many of my friends revelling at the thought of me feeling like crap. I know it’s a big accusation unsupported by facts, I don’t want to give an example because it will shift the focus to a single incident with a single friend..

It is NOT that they want their own space.. some of these girls are actually obsessing over my life details. Asking me private stuff and wanting to meet when I’m actually too busy. I make time because I value our friendship but I don’t enjoy their company anymore..

It’s either things they say, or things they do. And it’s mostly revolving around my personal life which I managed to finally resolve myself. It IS why I believe my personal life is rubbing them the wrong way..

I don’t believe I’m better than them. But I believe their behaviour shows insecurity around those topics. Otherwise why obsessively ask me about them and then put me down?

I can hand on heart say I have always always wanted to make my friends feel happy around me. But whether I have done something unintentionally and developed bad friendship habits I don’t know. It’s what I’m trying to find out.

The friends I’m talking about don’t actually know each other. So it’s not a friendship group dynamic that I have upset. It’s separate friendships.

Turned competitive over superficial matters that never used to bother our friendship before.

I was an insecure teen due to our dramatic change in lifestyle and community. So perhaps I just seemed our friendships with people that didn’t make me feel insecure..

And perhaps my newly found confidence has upset the dynamic so don’t know

I can make new friends but I just want to know whether I’m doing something wrong.

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AmbitiouslyFit · 06/01/2020 22:05

Seeked out *

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TigerOnATrain · 06/01/2020 22:08

tl;dr

Seriously @AmbitiouslyFit . Confused I don't have a spare half hour to read the original post!

AmbitiouslyFit · 06/01/2020 22:12

Sorry for my long original post. Will summarise next time! I was just having a moment where I was sick of the sound of all the negative thoughts in my head on my own and decided to word-vomit it all.

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Weffiepops · 06/01/2020 22:44

It's jealousy, I find old friends use me as a target now because I have a good wage, have status with an important job etc and they butch about me. But they were ok with me when I was struggling. Lonely at the top

BMW6 · 06/01/2020 22:52

Your phrase "good looking husband" had me reeling back in horror OP, you lost me with that one sentence. The rest sounds like a series of trophy wins..........Shallow much??

Bluntness100 · 06/01/2020 23:06

Are you sure yoh don't come across as self absorbed and boastful to them op?

What you describe doesn't generally happen. People comfortably off don't en masse start hating on someone else who is. If someone is self absorbed and boastful, then it can create bad feeling.

I wonder if your change in circumstances as a child has caused you to feel shame, and now you wish to show off, about your life, and your home, and it doesn't come across well. That maybe your confidence is maybe arrogance or self absorption.

And maybe you never really liked these people in the first place. And you only got back in touch fully to show off.

AmbitiouslyFit · 06/01/2020 23:14

Weffiepops

I’m taking it personal because I feel like our friendship wasn’t good enough to withstand such a shallow issue.. it withstood deeper things and we were through thick and thin together. That’s why these girls were seperately my best friends not just any random friends. For me it’s a reflection on my past and I feel like it was all deceptive.

BMW6 I do have a good looking husband. Not shallow it’s a fact. Perhaps saying my life is great because of it was shallow. But I’m context I was explaining that this is all outwardly.. I’ve said I’m unhappy many times and I hadn’t gone into detail but surely me and you agree life is more than a good looking DH and so there are many reasons why life isn’t as great as it looks to my friends.

Yes it sounds like a series of trophy wins I’d yiu want to see it this way. I’m listing the things that I believe is rubbing people the wrong way. In fact, the things I’ve listed have been pointed out to me by said friends and used against me..

One of my friends who tried told me DH was too good looking she feels like kissing him Hmm started to flirt with him soon after and wanting a reaction. I stopped inviting her ever since... I am sad to have lost our friendship and a bit shocked to have once beleives she is a supportive friend.

In all honestly?? I’m weird but I values myself friendships so much so that I resented my new more comfortable lifestyle and it actually makes me feel insecure

I’m not shallow and never was judgemental. Maybe I’m coming across wrong to friends like I am on here

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