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Roe v Wade

14 replies

Sinopehope · 03/01/2020 00:41

The anti-abortionists are winning in the argument to criminalise abortion. What on earth are American women going to do when they no longer get free contraception and the cost of pregnancy leaves them homeless ?
We’re going backwards as a society and it makes me want to cry.

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Hl360806 · 03/01/2020 00:45

Most don't get free contraception anyway, and federalism will still exist. Like at the moment, cannabis is illegal at the federal level but legal in states like Colorado. So women will do what they did before Roe v Wade and go to liberal states like California and New York.

Wishforsnow · 03/01/2020 00:52

Clearly anyone that thinks many women can just pop to another state really does not understand the issue

Hl360806 · 03/01/2020 01:02

Thanks for the passive aggression, but I was responding to the premise that American women at large will be unable to access abortion. That's clearly false when individual states will still be able to keep it legal. Moreover, many women live very long distances from clinics at the moment, even within their home states, so quite frankly for women in isolated areas of illiberal states criminalisation is moot.

Leaannb · 03/01/2020 01:05

We don't get free birth control. We get very little free over here

ForkThis · 03/01/2020 01:06

Criminalising abortion won’t stop abortion. It will stop safe abortions. Women will die. Not very “pro life”.

AngeloMysterioso · 03/01/2020 01:07

What on earth are American women going to do when they no longer get free contraception and the cost of pregnancy leaves them homeless?

Suffer. And it will serve them right for being poor/female/sinful (delete as applicable). But women don’t matter as much as men’s god-given right to control us and our bodies foetuses and their “right to life” so who the fuck cares anyway?*

*obvs this is not my actual opinion

Leaannb · 03/01/2020 01:12

You are delusional to think they just can just hop to the next state. The whole ordeal would cost thousands. It isn't the rich who needs locally available abortions

Hl360806 · 03/01/2020 01:16

All I'm saying is that federal law (Roe v Wade) is very different from state law, and that many women don't have access to abortion anyway due to living rurally and so on, so it's a red herring to focus on the repeal of Roe.

Sinopehope · 03/01/2020 09:52

My worry is that the repeal of Roe will mean that there will be states that will use it to clamp down or even reverse there own current abortion rules.
The idea that you can just hop on a bus to the nearest clinic if you don’t have access in your area, isn’t really an option for most.
I realise that contraception isn’t free but I was aware that some medical insurers offered it as part of their contracts but they are now rescinding that offer.
Angelo is right when they say it’s about control. I see American men as emotionally weak in their need to control women’s bodies. Their leader is a deranged pudding of a man and the Vice President is an evil man desperate to belittle women and put them ‘back in their place’.
This is going to have serious repercussions for many years to come.

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Bezalelle · 03/01/2020 10:15

America is a cesspit. So much for the land of the free and the home of the brave. One of the geo-political failures of human history, that country. It's an absolute embarrassment.

Groovinpeanut · 03/01/2020 12:48

Margaret Atwood was before her time. When you watch the Handmaids Tale you see an awful lot of things coming true in America. The mentality of people in a progressive society voting in a President like Trump shows their thought patterns.
It'll only get worse!

Lifecraft · 03/01/2020 12:52

Suffer. And it will serve them right for being poor/female/sinful (delete as applicable).

It'll serve them right for voting for Trump, which women did, in their tens of millions.

Ocarinan · 05/01/2020 11:38

[https://time.com/5758662/republican-lawmakers-abortion-brief/]]

Worrying.

Ocarinan · 05/01/2020 11:39

time.com/5758662/republican-lawmakers-abortion-brief/

Link that works.

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