To ask you to pray for the thousands of people trapped on a beach by fires in Victoria?

[TheClaws]

There are 4000 people from the town of Mallacoota, Victoria, Australia, that is currently being destroyed by fire. They most likely won’t have homes to return to. They all have life jackets on ready to take shelter in the water as embers rain down upon them. Fire personnel have just - as I post - told them to get in the water. Can you imagine how they must feel?

Australia at the moment is burning across 4 states. Where I am it is 45c and the smell of smoke is heavy. It is a terrible summer for us.

To the poster up thread asking how fires can cross roads.

Bad wind here before set another suburb across the water on fire with an ember attack. Embers can travel significant distance in the right situation sparking multiple fires.

@TheClaws stay safe x

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YANBU

Also - Scott Morrison is a knob.

Smoke from these fires are travelling 14Km into the air , causing such massive clouds that they start to create their own weather systems, including lightning storms, which will then ignite new fires elsewhere as it strikes.

Truly horrific.

astrogirl99

^^

Superb post

Does anyone have a reliable link to donate too, please?

However, I will not donate to one of the wealthiest countries in the world, who do bugger all with their wealth to look after the ancient environment we are lucky enough to live in.

Please yourself. I wouldn’t let a petty political point stand in the way if helping people in immediate need, but each to their own.

Great post, Astrogirl.

Oh dear, someone got a bit sensitive about my post. Funny that. I thought they were proud of themselves. 🤷‍♀️

For those who want to pray and send good wishes rather than talk about actions to prevent this happening more often

I went to midnight mass, to please my mother. The priest told a tale. About a man dying in a desert. He prayed to god. After a while, someone arrived in a cart and offered to carry him to safety. The man refused, saying he was praying to god. Later the woman came back, offering again to take the man to safety, again the man refused. After the third time, the man died. He got to heaven and asked St. Peter why he wasn't saved despite praying. St. Peter rolled his eyes. I sent help to you three times.

Praying isn't enough. We need to act. Use our capabilities, Reflect on how our selfish actions, combined across the world, caused this catastrophe

Reflect on how our selfish actions, combined across the world, caused this catastrophe

Reflection seems like all we can do at times. Where do we start with tackling this climate change? This isn't the thread though is it - perhaps there is one already to discuss what individuals can do.

managedmis Try this link. Thank you!

www.redcross.org.au/campaigns/disaster-relief-and-recovery-new-years-eve#donate

I’m not sure the fires, being caused by climate change can be laid at the door of a government voted in 6 months ago.

Failure to address has been the fault of governments (of all colours) for decades.

Praying for you all in this awful situation.

Failure to address has been the fault of governments (of all colours) for decades

It’s our fault, vie voting them in and for keeping with the mindless consumerism.

This government has been in power since 2013. They have spent 6 years denying climate change, cosying up to coal and other mining organisations and cutting essential services.

Australia had an emissions trading scheme until the opposition (which included the now prime minister) started agitating and pulling at the thread of fear an uncertainty that such change brings. They preyed on this to dispose of three prime ministers who were open to a more progressive approach (including one in their own party) they destroyed any hope of such legislation or any further steps towards investment in renewable energy sources. They sowed seeds of fear and used misinformation funded by donors. Our idiot PM bought a lump of coal into parliament as a prop. He’s going to India in a few weeks to meet with one of the biggest energy companies in the world. They are very very responsible for the backward approach we have to addressing climate change and they don’t care. They want their donors to be happy, because when they leave politics, their donors will make sure they get a cushy job with their companies. This idiot PM has also refused dozens of requests to meet with fire and emergency services experts who have been warning about this fire season since before the election. He’s a huge part of the problem and his lack of action and accountability sickens me

He’s also a god bothering, happy clapping idiot who genuinely believes in a reckoning and has spent the last month working out how to make it legal for religious organisations to discriminate against people. The level of anger currently directed towards him is nothing like anything I’ve ever seen before and Australia has had a very turbulent decade in politics. The top 5 trending topics on twitter in Australia in the last month have been calling for his dismissal.

@user1471432735

Thank you for taking the time to post this very informed insight into what's gone in here in Oz across the last 10 years.
Sending love, and maintain the rage xx

What with Trump, Johnson and Morrison (any others?) you'd think we'd have a desire to totally foul up the politics on the planet.

Like I said - a very rich country should not need donations to sort out its own citizens who are in trouble.

If they had no insurance then more fool them.

If they have not campaigned and help set up disaster relief plans in their own remote communities - then they now get the reason for them.

I will donate to fire fighters who risk their lives in fires that some are natural, some are started by moronic individuals and idiots who refused to leave their homes when given enough warning.
Infinite respect for those who sacrifice their own safety for others - and have already donated to that.

BBC News - Australia wildfires: Fire truck overrun by bushfire flames
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-50954638

Terrifying

I've just had a notification on sky news on my mobile saying firefighters sheltered in truck from fire.
Then minutes later a notification about Australia celebrating new year with fireworks
It does seem a bit bad