AIBU to think its not acceptable for a homeless woman to have to give birth on the street.

[Thelnebriati]

Homeless woman gives birth to premature twins on a cold street outside Cambridge University college
www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/homeless-woman-birth-premature-twins-17471458

Formerbabe councils try their best

Lol at defensiveness from those on the right.

Have the courage of your convictions. Right wing philosophy is a well developed, well understood political approach. Personal responsibility, low tax, small state. It's fairly pathetic not to stand by it over one news story!

@Fraggling
I know, but I'm a bleeding heart at the end of the day. The vote went the way it did, and all I can do is hope for the best.

I think we all know that if she had turned up at a council or hospital or some other such agency that would act on her behalf-like a church-no-body would have told her, 'Tough Luck-Give Birth on the Street'

Does anyone on this thread-anyone without an axe to grind that is-really believe that?

So, while it is awful, there must be a particular reason or story why she didn't seek help and maybe is not one that the government is responsible for!

There is also the possibility that some of the homeless women are hiding from violent husbands/partners/ex’s and are too frightened of liaising with authorities, volunteers or health services because they’re frightened the perpetrator will find them. It’s all very well us thinking that they’ll be protected, but the two plus women murdered every week wouldn’t fill me with confidence and I had a wonderful husband.

I don't think anyone is saying that she HAD to give birth on the street, I don't think anyone forced her and of course it isn't acceptable. But any woman, homeless or not, could end up giving birth on a street , especially if she gives birth prematurely and labour is fast.

Of course it isn't ok but you have no doubt spotted the huge increase in the number of homeless plus more widespread use of foodbanks under the recent Governments.

*I live in London and it is not bollocks at all.

My high street is full of rough sleepers now, not seen anything like it since the 80s.*

I live in a small, affluent, market town in Sussex and have done since 1991. Until about 4-5 years ago, there was no-one sleeping on the street here, now there are at least 6. I also know of at least 3 others, 2 who sleep in cars/vans and one who sleeps in the shed on an allotment.

The numbers sleeping rough in the seaside towns, especially Brighton, have gone through the roof.

I worked in homelessness prevention/relief for nearly 12 years. It's heartbreaking how services for homeless people have been slashed in recent years.

Funny thing is, if this had been a thread on Mumsnet, no one would have believed it

Pauline GDPR would allow any information to be allowed from any official source to be in the public domain. Only the mother herself would be able release any information

The UK is soon to become a 3rd world country

I'd love some of the 15% of voters who think this is not unacceptable would post and explain their thinking.

It's quite beyond me how this is ok in what is still one of the richest countries in the world.

What's offensive and puerile is that homelessness has risen exponentially since the Tories came to power and people still voted them in, then don't want to own up to what they voted for (and they still believe that everyone who didn't vote Cons must have voted Labour, too ignorant to realise there are other parties people voted for).

The UK is soon to become a 3rd world country

1. Such ridiculous hyperbole.
2. It is considered offensive to label developing countries as '3rd world'.

It is offensive to state as ivykaty did that people who voted Tory WANT this to happen. FGS.

This makes me so sad. Awful news.

nobody wants this for anyone but actually in this scenario, homeless or not homeless, if you go into labor unexpectedly, you might give birth on the street, or in a car. I am glad I live in a country where an ambulance is free and hospital care is free and this lady is now receiving that care. Whilst the number of homeless in this country is far too high, I know enough about homelessness to know the solutions are not as simple as giving everyone somewhere to live. ( and I am involved with 2 charities that feeds and house homeless people where able.)

I'm not denying the homeless problem is grave, but babies do not live on the streets with the authorities being aware of it in the UK.

It is offensive to state as ivykaty did that people who voted Tory WANT this to happen. FGS.

How? If you vote for a party that has shown by its policies that it actively persecutes, targets and penalises the sick, the disabled, the poor and working poor, then it goes to follow that by voting for them you at the very least sanction and condone their polices. That's not offensive, that's just a sequitur.

So Tory voters actively WANT homeless women to give birth to babies in the streets? That is what you are saying.

It is considered offensive to label developing countries as '3rd world'.

By whom? You? If it's your opinion then own it as such rather than trying to couch it in the 3rd person. My opinion is that much of the UK is even beyond developing countries in that many of its populace is so backwards-thinking and in love with an idealised version of its past that many actually seek to move in a backwards fashion. There. Stated it, owned it.

NOt a Tory voter. But didn't vote Labour, either. See, there are more than 2 parties.

The Conservative party are ultimately far more helpful in the long run to the poor than labour, so I’m fine with my choice.

I would also add that rather than blame the government for the situation we are in we should also take a look at ourselves and what we could do to improve the situation. People living on the street are often they because of mental health issues/ family issues/ marriage breakdown etc. A roof over their heads is one thing but they need more than that. They need us to actually care about them. They need friends and emotional support. They need meaningful activity whether voluntary or paid jobs. The most important need is often emotional. I have known people to be offered housing but to feel desperately lonely in a flat on their own. I had a friend who kept losing his rental accommodation as he liked to go off camping for weeks in end and kept not paying the rent. I have known people offered housing and evicted for turning it into drug den. It is very very complex and as as society we need to take more responsibility for supporting the vulnerable. I se so many memes along the lines of if people drain you, bring you stress, cause negativity etc, get rid as life is too short. Looking after very needy people will often be draining but why should it just be someone else's job. MN is always telling people to go NC with family members. What happens to those people who are emotionally needy, whose families decide to h have no more contact with them??

So Tory voters actively WANT homeless women to give birth to babies in the streets? That is what you are saying.

If you voted for a party whose policies directly caused an increase in homelessness, then again, you wish for those policies which have resulted in that to be maintained at the very least. You condone and sanction such policies. That is undoubtedly not hard to comprehend, surely

It is not just my opinion. Maybe do a bit of reading and/or critical thinking.