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To ask for help objecting to a proposed build

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QuestionableMouse · 22/12/2019 12:28

I live in a row of houses that has a playing field on one side and farmland on the other. Part of the farmland is currently being built on with a development of 70 houses. I objected to that as did most of the village to no avail.

Now the council want to build 40 houses on the playing field. This will block access to my back garden and will mean my house is overlooked (the plans drafted show the new houses will have parking that's basically right against my fence.)

Its basically doubling the size of the village. There's no plan to manage the extra traffic (each house has parking for 2 cars plus visitor parking so in the region of 300 extra cars). The access currently isn't great and can get blocked in bad weather.

No one in the village wanted either development (including the parish Council) but the Borough Council overruled the objections. Its going to totally change the village. Please can you help me object?

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Alenia45 · 22/12/2019 19:38

I raised concerns with our council about the lack of school places for the 210 new houses being built in one go (along with another 150 on another site and 60 on another). The school was oversubscribed and when I raised my concerns, I was told for 210 houses, all 2 to 5 bedrooms, they estimated....

11 students from 3-18!!

Seriously, 11 students! It was ridiculous.

I know of at least 10 that live within 6 houses on the estate. DS1 have 4 in his class from the estate, DS3 has 5.

There were no extra provisions for the drs and dentists and they cut the public transport back, and then complain there is too much traffic in the village.

Thankfully they increased the primary school to accept another half as much again but it's already oversubscribed. High school has over 1000 students and is oversubscribed with no plans of room to expand.

They've just approved another 40 houses and another application for 60. No plans for more infrastructure and we have a failing electrical structure in the main part of the village with constant roadworks to dig it all up and fix broken cables.

Utterly ridiculous and I am 100% sure the planning commitiy is getting kickbacks.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 22/12/2019 20:08

Anyone who voted Tory well ok, but the worst abuses of process happened here under the Labour government. I don’t imagine it’s any better since, but honestly, please don’t be under the illusion it matters who’s in government.

sophiestew · 22/12/2019 20:14

There's no demand for more houses in the village.

It's incredibly unlikely a developer would invest in the scheme if that were true OP.

There is a huge shortage of housing and I think your only option here is to move if you don't like it. In the city where I live there are mothers and children sleeping rough on the streets because there is absolutely no emergency housing available. Houses have to be built.

Plannymcplanface · 22/12/2019 20:19

OP it's outing, but if you give the name of your local council and the application reference number then it might be possible to help as the full details should be online .

Hingeandbracket · 22/12/2019 20:27

Just like when the house you live in was built
This is a stupid argument - taken to its logical conclusion it means we just keep building until there are no fields left.

Hingeandbracket · 22/12/2019 20:29

Yes it really is
So the only way to avoid the daft epithet "NIMBY" is to accept ever declining quality of life and increasing overcrowding. OK then.

QuestionableMouse · 22/12/2019 20:44

No provision to extend the school despite potentially doubling the number of kids in the village. It's a good school that's full as it is. Due to the site of the school, the only place they could expand to is onto the school playing field which isn't massive to start with.

One bus stop that's about half a mile from the site. Buses run every 40 mins or so and stop at seven ish. Taxis are stupidly expensive because we're miles from the nearest big town.

One shop/post office and a pub. That's it for services in the village.

I don't want to lose access to my back garden from outside. I don't want a massive house looming over mine. I want the field to stay and be used as it is by the community. There's at least two brownfield sites where they could build but they're not desirable apparently.

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CottonSock · 22/12/2019 20:48

Not able to read the thread, but building on a playing field is unusual. Have you tried your MP. Sport England, open spaces society?. Try and get designated a village green..?
My friend stopped a similar development. It can be done.

LIZS · 22/12/2019 20:54

What stage has it reached? Is it a proposal, consultation, outline planning or full pp? Look online at the relevant documents and responses as they should include comments from other residents, Highways, Environment Agency etc, relevant council officials like Historic Buildings and Conservation Officer, interested local groups.

TheCountessatHotelCortez · 22/12/2019 21:12

@Hingeandbracket I totally agree with you and that is what I was saying, if I wanted to live where everyone is on top of one another then I would live in a city, I did once at 18 coming from a very small village to a city and only last 6 months as living in a city affected my mental health. Absolutely ridiculous to just say don’t like it move! The way things are going everywhere will be built on and then where do those of us who like to live in quieter areas actually go? Move every year to avoid this?

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 22/12/2019 21:49

JustAnotherPoster00 don’t say such idiotic things without reading my whole post. As you can see if you read it you would note that I consider a lack of infrastructure to support building paramount and if you cannot provide that then you shouldn’t build. Also that there are literally thousands of unoccupied houses that could and should be made habitable and used but developers don’t want that as not enough mark up-those houses could easily be used without building in green fields and felling trees, removing wildlife habitat and causing floods etc which never happened before— or would you like us all to live in towns and cities?
Those of us who live in small rural communities do so for a reason and accept their are downsides to this which include only having one bus to town a day and only having a pub, a Spar and a church in the village. I’m not sure that building hundreds of houses in that sort of community is actually beneficial to anyone.
Think before you comment with your holler than thou virtue signaling behind your key board.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 22/12/2019 21:50

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NameChangeNugget · 23/12/2019 12:11

Whilst I agree the view and maintaining the house value is important to you, it hardly seems like a sound planning reason to object.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 23/12/2019 12:12

Ok boomer Really?

People REALLY think / say such inane drivel and think it has any meaning?

0/10

QuestionableMouse · 23/12/2019 12:36

I don't want to post my location because it would out me. There's no planning permission on the website yet the contractors have been out measuring and marking the field. According to the site boss, they've been contracted to start as soon as the current build is complete.

Speaking of that, the fuckers have cut down a tree that was over 200 years old. The council refused to issue a tree protection order. I noticed it this morning and honestly felt like crying.

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QuestionableMouse · 23/12/2019 12:41

From Google maps. I'll get a pic from the same spot in a bit. There's nothing left.

To ask for help objecting to a proposed build
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minisdriver · 23/12/2019 12:43

Nimbyism at its finest What a nice, kind, understanding person you sound !

Dr1v1ngh0meforxxxmas · 23/12/2019 13:14

Lived in an area with lots of villages
Each village had new houses built, despite objections
Same thing occurred in the village
All arguments about increased traffic, schools, doctors, shops ignored, water issues, green land issues

I believe the Government have targets to reach for new properties

leckford · 23/12/2019 13:25

The government should not be encouraging more concreting over the countryside. There are loads of redundant buildings in market towns and empty out of town shopping centres. These should be developed first.

I would imagine non of the ones near you will be affordable. The ones being built outside Winchester start at £450,000

Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/12/2019 13:31

I'll make no comment on the impact because I don't know the area, but developments of 40 and 70 houses suggest a large construction company rather than a one man band ... and a large company will have plenty of money and contacts with which to influence the planning authority

In which case, good luck with objecting to the building, the removal of the tree or anything else

Dr1v1ngh0meforxxxmas · 23/12/2019 13:37

I'm just providing an example where objections were ignored
Why should one village not have new build, when the other villages did

AquaFaba · 23/12/2019 14:54

@leckford I’m not too far from you (by River Test). Just appalling the amount of new builds without thought to infrastructure or destroying the countryside. Very sad.

TonTonMacoute · 24/12/2019 10:38

If you look at CPRE Sussex Facebook page they've got photos of several sites in the Sussex Weald which have been earmarked for new housing, all flooded!

We are complaining about our town centres dying yet they are building new houses and retail parks in the countryside. There is even a plan to build a surfing lake on agricultural land in Devon. Drive a few miles and you get to the north coast and surf in the sea ffs.

The situation we have now is nothing to do with providing people with homes, property is a popular alternative investment as interest rates are so low and huge amounts of money can be made for the developers and fir rich foreign investors.The number of new properties which are being built that no one will live in is obscene, and building more homes that people can't afford to buy is not going to solve the shortage of affordable homes.

Then you have to look at the building standards - pitifully low. Former housing minister Kit Malthouse admitted that a lot of what we are currently building will be bulldozed in thirty years time. How is that going to be sustainable?

People here who are throwing around the word nimby have no idea what is really going on, and are actually enabling greedy developers ruin our countryside, and environment, forever for quick profit, the worst face of capitalism.

Abraid2 · 24/12/2019 14:59

Entirely agree.