To think the Beckhams are right not to invite...

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...David’s father’s new partner’s daughter to Cruz and Harper’s christening?

Even typing that out was convoluted!

What adult child on earth would expect to be invited to an event of their mother’s new partner’s (of less than a year) son and more importantly, if said son wasn’t David Beckham, who would even want to go?!

It’s all rather shameless and doesn’t bode well for the relationship.

I am Catholic but didn’t get my daughter baptised. She can decide herself when she is older.

They are not actually Catholic. How can they raise a child in the faith if they’re not paid up members themselves?

i disagree with infant baptism because the child isn't old enough to understand
But you are old enough - I am presuming, by virtue of you posting on mumsnet - to understand what infant baptism means and doesn't mean and what confirmation does.

Quite a few christian sects dont believe in infant baptism, its not news at all.

It only became the thing to do because of a law passed hundreds of years ago that a child must be baptised, and if the family were not believers in infant baptism it was perfectly legal for the child to be forcibly removed from the parents and baptised anyway.

It came from the idea that a child not cleansed of Original Sin (the fact that it was conceived by the sexual act) it would not go to heaven if it died, as small children often did then, but into Limbo for eternity. They believed that they were saving the child from that.

Not really helpful to the discussion, but QI (or at least I think so!)

Ah Skeletor isn't Kabbalah anymore?

Only read this on here, and don't much take any notice of the Beckhams, but they don't come across as vindictive people,so maybe fake news once again.

Where did you read this?

I wonder how true this story is. However there are many Christians who believe in adult, or older children's, baptism. I've been to an adult baptism and I was baptised at the age of eight because I asked to be (Harper is eight); I was considered old enough to make my mind up about it. The Beckhams aren't having two of their children christened, the youngsters themselves must have decided they want it.

It has happened:
metro.co.uk/2019/12/21/victoria-beckham-shares-photo-harper-cruzs-baptism-following-family-row-davids-dad-11946263/

If they did exclude David's dad's girlfriend's daughter, that does seem a bit mean considering all the other people who were invited but I wonder if they really did (it says so on the 'net in several newspapers but you can't believe everything published by the media).

Just a story in the newspaper. Doesn’t make it true. You don’t need to be Catholic to be baptised. Christening and baptism are not the same thing. I’ve been to lots of baptisms. People are commonly in their teens when they get baptised.

Some Christian traditions (e.g. C of E, Catholic) have infant baptism, then confirmation (i.e. confirming the baptism promises) when the child is old enough to make a commitment themselves.

Others (e.g. Baptists), only have baptism when the child is old enough to make a commitment themselves, then don't have confirmation.

I’m sure they’ll work it out. Thoughts and prayers.

My friends was christened when she was 23. Her family isn't particularly religious but she started going to church when she was 16 or 17 and finally decided she wanted to do it.

Well according to that Metro article ,Brooklyn and Romeo where christened in 2003 and VB was planning to do the same for Cruz and Harper but never got round to.it and is doing this t now because Cruz is 14 and would soon be thinking he's to old for it so it's nothing to.do with Cruz and Harper being old enough to make their own decision ,but anyway it's a nice bit of publicity for Brand Beckham

Is nothing kept private about these children’s lives

Even the sacred act of being baptized is turned into a PR stunt for the parents

Shameful

What the devil has it got to do with any of us? Unless she posts an AIBU, let their own family gossip about it!

According to some reports this ceremony took place in a catholic church.I was unaware the Beckhams were catholics, if so they must have all been converted very quickly.

It all sounds a bit odd tbh. Not very clear if it was a christening/infant baptism or an adult style baptism. Usually you would either have a christening/infant baptism as a baby or toddler or you have a full immersion baptism as an adult or when a child is mature enough to make their own promises and understand them (my son was 12). I have known older children of about 7-9 have a christening/infant baptism alongside an infant sibling where they say the promises themselves but the parents and godparents say it with them.

I'm assuming it was the infant type they had as they mention godparents, there is a choir wearing traditional robes in the photo and also it would be a massive coincidence if Cruz and Harper both independently decided they wanted to be baptised at the same time. It seems very strange to me for parents to stand up in church and promise to bring their 14 year old up in the Christian faith. Surely he can decide for himself now.

With David's Dad's new partner's daughter I think it would be fine not inviting her to a small intimate occasion like my ds had, especially if she doesn't know them well. However if they are having a massive party with loads of people it would be polite to invite them.