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to think that today is the start of the UK being a one party state

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autocracy111 · 17/12/2019 08:19

Genuine question up for debate.

What can such a depleted opposition now hope to get through Parliament? Do they just rely on the strength of their argument hopefully converting Tory benches? And what good will that do when they will be whipped the way the government wants them to vote?

Will it now be up to the Lords to be the main opposition? And when they only have the power to delay.

Genuinely worried that Boris and his right wing cabinet will have unbridled power.

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autocracy111 · 17/12/2019 08:19

even not when

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Figmentofmyimagination · 17/12/2019 08:55

Well we’ve got step number one already this morning - “give me what I want, when I want it, or I’ll shoot myself in the head”.

I think we can expect more of the same and the opposition will just have to get their popcorn out and watch.

scaryteacher · 17/12/2019 08:55

No more than in 97 when Labour won a landslide and held power for 13 very long years.

bellinisurge · 17/12/2019 09:03

Having actually lived and worked in a one party state, this isn't even close.

Fatasfooook · 17/12/2019 09:05

It’s up to us, the constituent to hound our local Tory mp for what we need and want. No more sitting back and hoping they get it right. They work for us. Keep on their backs.

autocracy111 · 17/12/2019 09:09

Well we’ve got step number one already this morning - “give me what I want, when I want it, or I’ll shoot myself in the head”.

What’s happened this morning?

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autocracy111 · 17/12/2019 09:09

Bold fail sorry.

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Figmentofmyimagination · 17/12/2019 09:15

autocracy

PM has announced that the law is to be changed to make it “illegal” to remain in the EU beyond December 2020, in the hope of showing them how ‘serious’ we are. Hmmm. The same government can also amend their own Act of Parliament pretty swiftly if need be, with zero electoral risk, so not that serious.

ViaSacra · 17/12/2019 09:18

The opposition never normally manage to get anything through parliament - this is how British politics usually works.

The years since 2010 of hung parliaments and tiny majorities are a historical blip.

Think back to the Blair years of massive Labour majorities - the Conservatives didn’t manage to get anything through Parliament in those 13 years. Did it concern you then?

ViaSacra · 17/12/2019 09:19

This is how the British political system works - it’s one of ‘alternating predominance’.

It’s always been this way. If you don’t like it, campaign for electoral reform and a more proportional system.

Youseethethingis · 17/12/2019 09:28

You do realise that it is the political norm in our democracy for one party to have a majority and form a government which can actually govern?

user1471448556 · 17/12/2019 09:30

Johnson could ... redraw constituency boundaries in the Tories’ favour, abolish the fixed term parliament act thus ensuring only he can decide when to have future elections (cue elections at the most inconvenient time for students), enforce voter ID (disenfranchising lower socioeconomic groups who may not have or cannot afford to get a passport, photo ID), tighten his grip on the media (he’s already coming in hard on the BBC and the Daily Mail has just bought the i newspaper ... leaving only the Mirror and the Guardian offering a counterbalance) ... so it could easily happen.

mothertruck3r · 17/12/2019 09:32

I think in reality it has been a one party state for many years. The choice (until very recently) was nuLabour or Tory. Both neo-liberal globalists with very slight superficial variation. Corbyn was a radical change but big business was never going to back him so it's back to what it has been for the past 20+ years, basically more neo-liberalism.

Figmentofmyimagination · 17/12/2019 09:38

He’s also got plans to curtail judicial review - he’s not keen on the Supreme Court and what he regards as ‘judicial overreach’.

The Conservatives have also been nursing long term plans to eg -

  • abolish the human rights act and replace it with a British Bill of Rights
  • prevent public sector strikes
  • allow employers to break strikes using agency workers
  • reintroduce employment tribunal fees

These are all things they can do while still remaining in the EU (except perhaps the first one) so watch this space.

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