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More people voted to remain?

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refraction · 13/12/2019 20:19

So I am approximating this

If 67 percent of the electorate voted not good.

13 mill for Tory
10 mill for Labour

The majority voted remain parties.

I mean its done now. I just think it's interesting or have I worked this out incorrectly?

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magoria · 13/12/2019 21:34

It is impossible to tell.

Some tory voters will be remain. Some labour voters will be leave.

cakeisalwaystheanswer · 13/12/2019 21:41

The Lib Dems were the only party to campaign as the Stop Brexit Party, there will be voters from both sides voting for other parties. I know remainers who voted Tory because they were terrified of a Corbyn govt. Similarly many Brexiteers will have voted Labour because they would never vote for anyone else.

This is beyond desperate, it's time to move on.

moodolph · 13/12/2019 21:42

I see what you are saying op.

I saw a similar statistic for Scotland.

1.2 million voted snp.

1.7 million voted for other parties.

4.3 million could have voted. So 29 percent voted snp. 79 percent elsewhere or not at all. Yet it's all about second referendum?

Amanduh · 13/12/2019 21:42

No, that’s not how it works.

refraction · 13/12/2019 21:43

This is beyond desperate, it's time to move on.

Its just general discussion. Don't worry I accept Brexit getting doneSmile

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doritosdip · 13/12/2019 21:43

Labour weren't promising to remain.

Brexit isn't the only subject that people care about so it's possible to be a Labour Leaver or Tory Remainer.

cakeisalwaystheanswer · 13/12/2019 21:50

Refraction - I'm glad you do but I can see another court case funded by a wealthy remainer challenging the election result. We all need to accept what has happened. The only good that may come out of all of this is that those of us with our comfortable lives in London have been forced to acknowledge years of neglect and lack of investment in other parts of the country. Lets hope something good comes from that.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 13/12/2019 22:01

The problem is that you really can't generalise.

A vote for the Conservatives meant that Brexit would go ahead as well as potentially meaning a whole load of other things. A vote for Labour or the Lib Dems meant that Brexit would or might be challenged as well as potentially meaning a whole load of other things.

Only the Brexit Party was truly a single-issue party, but that still didn't mean that 94% of people (or whatever percentage didn't vote for the Brexit Party) are declaring themselves as pro-Remain.

It's a bit like the Brexit vote itself, where certain people chose to claim that a vote for Brexit was a declaration that 'I am a racist'. Most racists probably did vote for Brexit, but a whole lot of genuinely non-racist people (of all races) also voted for Brexit as the question was 'do you want to leave the EU?' and not 'do you hate all foreigners?'; nor was it 'do you hate all non-white people?' or indeed 'do you hate all non-white foreigners?'

GruffaIoChrimbo · 13/12/2019 22:04

I am a remainer but did not vote Lib Dem.
I voted Labour to keep the tories out.
My constituency was one of the few to stay labour but it was close - had the Brexit Party not split the vote it might have turned blue.
I grudgingly accept I may have been in a left wing remain bubble/echo chamber on here, but it is still hard for me to accept it was a second referendum election: I would have felt so much better had former deputy Tom Watson lost with a labour remain mandate - had that been the case a Tory landslide would indeed make me feel like I was the minority remainer and suck it up buttercup.
But with all the media pile-on and the anti-semitic/terrorist ally controversy and taxation concerns, it isn't clear cut to me that it was all about getting Brexit done...although someone I spoke to this morning sighed and suggested the general populace ''just wanted to get it all over with'' so who knows. Maybe I am wrong and out of touch totally. I would have preferred a hung government and state of limbo was less scary than this nobody likes change Wink
I still would have liked a second referendum and now this will never ever happen with all the get Brexit done-ing, I hope Scotland gets its indy ref 2 at some point in the future and votes with their feet.

Bluntness100 · 13/12/2019 22:04

Labour didn't promise to remain, and I'm a remainer and voted tory. You can't really tell because many people voted on other issues, not just brexit, namely they were voting against Corbyn and momentum.

This wasn't quite the brexit election it was played as. It was key but it certainly wasn't the only hot issue.

marmitedreams · 13/12/2019 22:06

Oh just move on. You lost, twice, get over it.

bellinisurge · 13/12/2019 22:08

That's not how our electoral system works. You need to accept where we are and then focus on making our post-leaving the EU UK better.

GruffaIoChrimbo · 13/12/2019 22:14

I wish I could marmite I'm not usually a bad loser, honest guv Grin
I just worry for my family, both here and in Germany. Brexit has already cost me a lot personally so it does feel personal, I am still grieving. I do not understand why you wanted out so much, I read some of the arguments on here, but still fail to see the advantages economically and long-term. That doesn't make me a terrible person, it might mean I am stupid as far as economics goes, but I am not stupid usually - I just don't get it. We're not Norway, the NHS is already understaffed and Boris Johnson is a two-faced weasel. Confused

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