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To think that Steve Coogan (and similar celebs) handed the Tories another 2% of the vote?

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ChristaMSieland · 12/12/2019 23:32

metro.co.uk/2019/12/12/steve-coogan-says-alan-partridge-vote-tory-informed-ignorant-11839429/

I think there has been WAY too much of this. We need to foster a society where insulting people who disagree with us isn't acceptable. Especially when those we are insulting are the working classes.

If we carry on allowing this kind of 'discussion' we will never get an enlightened government and a fairer society.

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MistyCloud · 13/12/2019 16:07

@ChristaMSieland 100% agree, and I was about to start a similar thread.

I am sick to death of celebrities trying to be 'woke' and trying to gain fans and followers and popularity, by banging on about how everyone should have voted for Labour/Corbyn, and anyone who voted Tory is basically a heartless racist bigot who hates the poor.

Almost HALF of the entire electorate voted for the Tories, including millions of people who have always been Labour supporters. Because of how massively far-left they currently are. Many of the 'switchers' are Brexit supporters, who voted Tory because they know they will get us out of the EU now. Ya know, WHAT THE COUNTRY VOTED FOR!

Stepping down as leader is the best thing Corbyn has done. Hopefully, The Labour Party will return to how it was before he became leader. It was pointed out on TV last night (several times) that when Labour goes far left it loses every time. When it comes back to centre/left of centre, it wins.

Jess Phillips or Keir Starmer have been suggested for the new leader, and I don't think either one would be too bad. I want to be able to vote for Labour again. It's been so upsetting not being able to, and seeing the party go so far left, that authentic and lifelong Labour supporters have HAD to vote Tory.

Thank GOD Corbyn is going. Unfortunately we do have another 5 years of Tories now though, but hopefully Labour (with a new better, leader, who is more left of centre, rather than far left) will get in next time.

But yeah, going back to the leftie-celeb bollux. They do my head in. Lily Allen and Stormzy are ranting on twitter right now about it. And Danny DeVito was telling everyone (a few days ago,) to vote for Labour! What the fuck has it got to do with him? And why does he (And many other far-left celebs) think them banging on about how great Corbyn is, is going to make people vote for him? I don't give a fuck for the opinions of ANY of these over-priveledged twats.

And the way the twittersphere has been attacking people who voted Tory (including celebs like Maureen Lipman and Joanna Lumley and Kate Bush,) is fucking disgusting.

As I said, half the electorate voted for them. They cannot ALL be wrong, and they cannot ALL be thick, racist, bigots. So people can fuck off with those bullshit comments.

AutumnCrow · 13/12/2019 16:14

Your hypothesis would appear to flawed OP, on the basis that Steve Coogan supported and canvassed with Daisy Cooper in St Albans who beat the Conservative incumbent. See twitter @ libdemdaisy.

Pinkshoelace · 13/12/2019 16:19

I would love to see a study on how much celebrities endorsements or criticisms affect the result - but I suspect it would be very difficult to do a study that would really draw that out accurately.

I suspect that the difference it makes is actually very small and that most people don't care what celebrities say about anything.

It's one of the ways our society is really messed up. A bunch of actors get so much attention when professionals with informed views get almost none.

ChristaMSieland · 13/12/2019 16:43

Your hypothesis would appear to flawed OP, on the basis that Steve Coogan supported and canvassed with Daisy Cooper in St Albans who beat the Conservative incumbent. See twitter @ libdemdaisy.

You cannot prove his involvement helped locally though, any more than I can prove he damaged the Labour cause nationally.

He might have helped locally, but galvanised a few thousand potential non-voters nationally, to go out and vote Tory? Or maybe he reduced the Labour vote in St Albans, but not fatally?

Maybe his local benefit to Labour cancelled out any harm he did with his comments on national news? Or not quite? Who knows?

As a PP said, it would be great to see the influence of celebs measured.

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ChristaMSieland · 13/12/2019 16:44

Thank GOD Corbyn is going. Unfortunately we do have another 5 years of Tories now though, but hopefully Labour (with a new better, leader, who is more left of centre, rather than far left) will get in next time.

I'll drink to that! Wine

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CarolinaPink · 13/12/2019 18:55

No, not just you OP. Entirely agree.

littlemeitslyn · 13/12/2019 21:10

What is it with people who get in a strop if their comments aren't answered in a nano second?

MistyCloud · 13/12/2019 21:14

@littlemeitslyn

Wrong thread?

TheNameGames · 14/12/2019 07:51

@MistyCloud

And the way the twittersphere has been attacking people who voted Tory (including celebs like Maureen Lipman and Joanna Lumley and Kate Bush,) is fucking disgusting.

Rachel Riley got told by someone on Twitter that they hoped her baby was stillborn.

TheNameGames · 14/12/2019 07:53

This is the thread btw

mobile.twitter.com/amrourk/status/1205540276070178821

Angry
Gone2far · 14/12/2019 08:01

I was coming on to mention Eddie Izzard's disastrous appearance on QT, but someone beat me to it.
YANBU. Hugh Grant and Stormzy giving us the benefit of their wisdom is another example, and Bob Geldolf hiring a boat on the Thames is another. What is it about actors, singers, or any other celebrity that makes them think that I would be guided by their opinions.

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