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not to trust any political parties

15 replies

1moreRep · 11/12/2019 21:29

seriously, i don't trust any of them and feel there is no good way to vote.

Corbyn has ruined labour for me, i can't vote for him. I worry about our nations security and feel he is really anti establishment and therefore anti police. Diane abbott concerns me gravely, her son recent antics and her poor performance at interviews.

Lib dem's- jo swindon spoilt that on radio 5 the other morning, also i don't agree with free tuition fees. Also if they are the democratic party who believe in the power of the voters, why over turn brexit?

brexit party- just no, they have done enough damage already.

it's awful there is no other option. I just want a leader with integrity.

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1moreRep · 11/12/2019 21:31

oh i forgot to mention the tories, BJ, the nhs and just the crippling cuts.

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Mrscog · 11/12/2019 21:34

YANBU, we desperately need something new straightforward and different.

Labour plans don’t hang together for me - they need more tax to pay for it. Plus, even if they had the money it’s not possible to do everything they’re promising in 5 years.

Tories - well in terms of plans I sort of get it, but I’m angry that they’ve taken austerity too far and allowed the brexit shit storm in the first place.

Lib Dems - best policies and most realistic but obviously Jo Swinson is a bit of an idiot.

Brexit - I don’t believe in it.

Greens - more unrealistic than labour.

DryIce · 11/12/2019 21:38

feel he is really anti establishment and therefore anti police.

Honestly, what does this even mean? The Tories have cut 20k police over the past decade, that concerns me much more than feelings.

1moreRep · 11/12/2019 21:38

i just don't know who to vote for, i don't feel represented at all

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fromthefloorboardsup · 11/12/2019 21:39

What's the most pressing important issue for you? (If you had to pick just one)

Mum2jenny · 11/12/2019 21:40

The one thing that seems to unite all politicians is that they all lie. On that basis, vote for the candidate that works for your constituency, irrespective of their party.

My labour candidate is a very good choice, she is a good MP, scores highly for questions asked and her involvement in parliament.

However I loathe Corbin but it will not stop me voting for her tomorrow. She will be the best to represent this area.

fromthefloorboardsup · 11/12/2019 21:40

And what's your local MP like?

Fucket · 11/12/2019 21:43

They are all going to promise god knows what to get your vote. Most of what they say will never happen as it still needs to go through parliament and the HoL.

You just have to picture what each party will be like in government and who benefits and who doesn’t, how good they will be on sorting out Brexit fiasco, foreign policy, etc

Go with your gut.

PinkiOcelot · 11/12/2019 21:46

Definitely NBU.
They’re all clowns and liars to boot.

fromthefloorboardsup · 11/12/2019 21:52

@Fucket's advice is good!

Spamantha · 11/12/2019 21:54

I have sympathy for you but, what I'd do in those circumstances, is vote tactically against the Torries.

In the event of a hung parliament, we will not see a formal coalition but the LDs, SNP et al will support Corbyn as PM in delivering a second referendum, to avoid a hard brexit. They will not vote through the majority of his policies and, once the referendum is resolved, Corbyn will be on the receiving end of a no confidence vote.

Hopefully we'd have better options at the next election.

1moreRep · 11/12/2019 21:55

ive researched my local mp (tory) but it looks like my votes not going to count for anything as it's a tory strong hold area.

i am going to vote (have always done with the kids and made a point of doing it) and i'm going to go with my gut, i'm trying to be aware of how my view will have been influenced subconsciously by the media

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fromthefloorboardsup · 11/12/2019 22:02

It's definitely worth remembering that without a large majority all parties will have to compromise on some things

Hereismyreply · 11/12/2019 22:02

OP, if any of the candidates in your constituency has already been an MP, you could could use TheyWorkForYou www.theyworkforyou.com/ to see how he/she has actually voted in key policy areas.

Hereismyreply · 11/12/2019 22:11

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50726500

Thought this report regarding the work of the Coalition for Reform in Political Advertising was interesting, particularly what they said about Facebook ads:
"t looked just at every paid-for Facebook ad from the three main UK-wide parties run over the first four days of December:

for the Conservatives, it said that 88% (5,952) of the party's most widely promoted ads either featured claims which had been flagged by independent fact-checking organisations (including BBC Reality Check) as not correct or not entirely correct. The figure includes instances of the same claims being made across multiple posts. One example was that Labour would spend £1.2 trillion at a cost of £2,400 to every household, which was contained within 4,028 ads. Those sums are significantly higher than others' analysis of Labour's plans

for the Lib Dems, it said hundreds of potentially misleading ads had featured identical unlabelled graphs, with no indication of the source data, to claim it was the only party that could beat either Labour, the Conservatives or the SNP "in seats like yours"

for Labour, it said that it could not find any misleading claims in ads run over the period"
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