To think junk food adverts should be banned ?

[Lardlizard]

Like posters for kfc etc

Pre prepared junk is undoubtedly cheaper than pre prepared fresh and healthy food. A huge problem for those who work long hours and don't have the time or energy to cook from scratch.

Not necessary in my view.

The supermarkets, food manufacturers and chain eating places are taking care of it by cost cutting/profit maximising on ingredients/methods to the point that most of what they sell is inedible tasteless shit anyway.

For an example, I fancied a little bit of simple chocolate sponge cake with chocolate buttercream filling. Don't like baking chocolate cake because it's hard to get right and very rarely desire it so picked up one with the weekly shop. Pound job from the aisle where they have such as mini fruit pies and cake bars.

Oh my fucking god.

It was one of the most disgusting things I have ever put in my mouth and I have had willies in there over the years so that's saying something. It was bitter. The sponge was dry as a bone, falling apart and had a texture like solidified aerated toothpaste. What they laughingly called buttercream on the box was like a cross between black tar and actual human shit with a flavour about as appealing as that sounds. Even then there were only a few very thin smears of that, covering less than half of the surface area.

I was not expecting gourmet dining for a pound but I was expecting it to be edible, it wasn't.

Bleurk, never again.

They are doing it with everything from the cheapest end of the food market to the so called extra special dear end.

They can shove it up their collective hole, I will make my own. My only worry is becoming incapable of doing so and having to resort to this mass produced lowest common denominator shite.

Yanbu. Awful, corrupt companies shouldn't be allowed to advertise.

KFC, Burger King and McDonald's are all killing the planet by contributing to the destruction of the Amazon rainforest.... but we should allow them to keep advertising because some people 'like' it and 'it's ok in moderation'.

If it were up to me these organisations would be shut down altogether but that's a whole other thread!

There's nothing with KFC

Parents letting their kids eat there twice a week are the problem.

So how do you define treats? Use the level of sugar, carbs or fats?

What about a sweet potato? That's on my treat list, yet they are a healthy alternative to chips or a baked potato, which I have to avoid.

There are lots of 'healthy' choices that aren't good for us in some way or another.

When I buy a fizzy drink, the extra charge is a farce. Where's the sugar tax on almost everything else in the store?

Bans don't work.
Taxes don't work.
If either of these did people wouldn't be buying full sugared drinks, tobacco, drugs etc.

Educate people. Give us the choice knowing all the facts, just like we do with other things.

Instead of trying to show portion sizes in relation to individual foods, show them examples. The food in the image, it's around 190 cals a portion, around the same number in the mn fav g&t.
When you see things laid out for you like that, it makes you think. Resturants are including calories on their menus.

Educate people about calories that don't revolve around men need x amount and women need x amount. If I ate what I am supposed to eat based on my sex, I would be overweight regardless of what I ate.

What helps me is knowing about calories, fat, carb and salt content. I know I can eat say 1500 a day. For dinner I have the meat/lamb dish, that's only 190 calories so I can easily squeeze in a big mac for lunch and still have loads of calories etc leftover for breakfast and drinks. Yet a salad I can have fewer of these to work with.

Banning ads isn't going to stop people eating junk food. Banning junk food would stop people eating junk food. That's not going to happen and I'm happy with that. I love a bit of junk food sometimes. I like that I have the choice.

@ffswhatnext how much lamb is in a portion? 190 kcal sounds oddly low Is that a typo? That's a lotless than 100g of lamb would be by itself.

It does look tasty!

I'm a fatty and I've never once seen an ad for KFC and thought "yeah, I could murder some of that

Same here. I've never ever been influenced to eat by an advert. I'm influenced to eat because of my disordered relationship with food which is linked to my mental health. Banning an advert for junk (and again, define junk) would do zilch.

It's also really dangerous to start throwing out "ban it" for everything we don't like, or every societal problem we encounter.

I would much more welcome if we made perfume ads explain the plots there rather than ban fast food ads😂
Like make it a law that they have to explain why that woman jumps into a deep swimming pool in her dress. It's dangerous! Or why is he standing so weirdly!

Adverts don’t make people fat, people who over eat, indulge and don’t have self control make themselves fat.

HTH

watching a mcds advert or kfc dosent make me want to go get one, watching booze adverts dosent make me go and get a bottle of wine, maybe we should ban adverts for expensive food because you know there are people who cant afford marks and spencers food adverts are only an invitation to go to that company if you want to we all have a choice wether we do or not ,

Just because they advertise it doesn't mean you have to eat it.

I agree that they should 'show' what a portion is. A lot of people are kidding themselves that they are eating 'normal' amounts when they are eating a plateful of something that they should be having a spoonful of.

ffs, you need something for scale next to that. No way can that pot of food only have 190 calories in it, unless it's the size of a very small bowl. Very very small. Meat is quite dense in calories and lamb is very fatty.

Why would you want a ban? If you can answer that, then we have an AIBU

@AllergicToAMop
full recipe www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1162648/mediterranean-vegetables-with-lamb

It is really delicious and filling. There are some amazing recipes out there that are low cal etc that are great for when you want that treat.

It doesn't have to eat super healthy or eat snacks. It's simple to add the occasional treat into a healthy diet.

Go back the basics and start with education. Something has gone wrong with normal portion size. When I notice my dinner plate become fuller, I revert back to some older plates because they are smaller and more in-line with the right portions.

Telling me about food in relation to fist size is meaningless, my boys at primary age had bigger fists than me, and of course, we had fists bigger to the toddlers, and the ex had bigger fists than all of us. So whose fist do I compare to? Each person 🤣 like anyone has time for that.

Or matchbox size. I don't keep them in the house. I don't know anyone who does. So how can we compare?

Companies, even fast food places, are making it easier for us to work out the calories etc. Showing those on menus has shown to work and we are thinking more about what we consume. It's seeing the numbers written down that has made us think.

But ultimately it's a choice to carry on drinking loads and still having the take-away, or drinking a bit less - or lower cal choices - and still able to have the food.

The sugar tax is bollocks. More education is needed around drinks on the whole. Those are often the hidden calories because oh it's just a glass of wine, won't be that many. Whereas champagne comes with less!! Some days I will treat myself to a latte, but how many of us remember that latte or whatever when it comes to salt etc?

Haha I know I sound obsessed. I'm really not. Half the time I don't really give a crap what I eat/drink. Just when I do, I notice these little things and make little alterations without going onto unnaturally sweetened products, or banning stuff.

For gods sake what else can we ban, pathetic.

I’m all for a ban. We absolutely can ban things whether or not some people are perfectly capable of nibbling on a square of chocolate and not inhaling the whole family size bar. I’d also tax junk food too. We already do it for booze, so why not food?

Banning advertisements of junk food will be a damn sight more effective than doing fuck all, which is the alternative. It is completely analogous to tobacco advertising. We shouldn’t be seeing fast food/crisps/coke/choc as normal foods, or something to aspire to.

And given just how much big companies like Coca Cola and PepsiCo spend on not only advertising and lobbying, you can bet they’ll resist it tooth and nail.

I’m all for a ban.

MoltoAgitato Why? For what reason?

You say it’ll be “a damn sight more effective than doing fuck all”, but why do we need to do anything at all? You can’t (and shouldn’t) attempt to control what people want to eat, or how much of it. It really is absolutely none of your business.

If you don’t like it, you don’t have to eat it, but don’t try and control what everyone else wants to do.

A healthy society is in everybody’s interest. We see fit to control a lot of what people do in order to achieve a functional, safe society - speed limits, seat belts, cigarettes and alcohol, controlled drugs. As a population, we seem to be incapable of self regulating our food intake and the impact on health is absolutely staggering. I fail to see why a 6 year old knowing about SuperLardyChocoSugarFlakez through an advertisement is a good thing and I think you are vastly underestimating the effort and money that companies put into food advertising. They advertise because it works.

By your argument, we shouldn’t tax alcohol, because it’s simply getting in the way of what people want to do, and if they want to destroy their liver in the process, who are we to stop them?

Smoking is bad for everyone who participates, eating fancy food is not.

Some people get through a bottle of gin in a week, others take 6 months to drink it, and we still tax it all the same, don’t we?

But how would you categorize what is junk food? @MoltoAgitato

Which would you ban advertising for - the big mac or the salad from elsewhere?

It's arse about tit, just banning stuff. Lazy and repressive and it won't work anyway.

Education is the only way to improve the situation - people have to want to make better choices, and understand what those choices are.

You can get fat bingeing on grapes and yoghurt, btw. You can be slim and healthy and eat KFC once a week. It's not simple.

Smoking is bad for everyone who participates, eating fancy food is not.

Eating fancy food can be just as bad as eating kfc in terms of calories, salt etc.

Yes yes yes

I've said this for ages. What really annoys me is the people in the ads are never, ever ever fat. Always good looking and slim. Or normal families. It perpetuates the myth that everyone eats takeout or KFC or domino's, and thin people eat crap food too. Or it's completely normal to get KFC on your lunch break at work, or a burger because you can't be bothered to do the washing up.

The one that really annoys me is the woman hiding the galaxy chocolate. Thin women don't have stashes of big chocolate bars all over the place.