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regardless of your politics, please watch this.

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rhubarbcrumbles · 11/12/2019 12:49

No matter who you are going to vote for, this video is so important to watch - listen to the homeless young man at 2.48

It's disgusting, no matter which government we have, that this is happening in our country.

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PettyContractor · 11/12/2019 16:33

Universal Credit may not be paid to working parents in months that have 5 weeks in them

Because they will have 25% more money that month from their salary!

OldElPasoHadAChicken · 11/12/2019 16:36

That is stark, tearjerking, horrible. That poor lad.

BlackCatFan · 11/12/2019 16:37

I agree. We can't survive another 5 years 😥😔

BlackCatFan · 11/12/2019 16:38

@PettyContractor they don't necessarily have to have a salary. This applies to non working people as well.

PettyContractor · 11/12/2019 16:43

This applies to non working people as well.

There are "working parents" who don't have a salary from working?

PettyContractor · 11/12/2019 16:50

Anyway, I've just realised my 25% figure is wrong. The usual complaint about five week months if from people who are paid every four weeks. In a five week month they have double their usual salary.

(There is an anomaly that adversely affects them, makes them worse off than someone paid the same annual salary, but monthly, and that is that they lose work allowances in these months. I'm not sure what solution to propose to this, other than maybe eliminating work allowances altogether! Not everyone gets them, they are a top-up incentive that only a minority are eligible for. I'd be happy for the money saved be eliminating them to be recycled into a higher basic benefit, so not just looking to cut.)

PBo83 · 11/12/2019 17:44

the OP has highlighted this video to demonstrate the current situation. She has made clear there is no underlying political reasons. For you to instantly make it all about “anti Tory” says a lot about you.

No underlying political reasons?!? It's a Labour video!

rhubarbcrumbles · 11/12/2019 20:36

That is stark, tearjerking, horrible. That poor lad.

Quite.
@PBo83 you know full well I had no underlying political reasons. In case you didn't work that out, re-read my OP. Then read my post later where I said I couldn't care less if people don't watch the whole video and where I have, more than once, directed people to watch the part at 2.48 as that is the part that needs to be watched.

I don't give a flying fuck if anybody watches any other part of the video but I do want people to watch 2.48 - watch it tonight, watch it on Friday morning, watch it whenever but please, please watch it and then donate to a charity for the homeless.

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Thelnebriati · 11/12/2019 21:01

PettyContractor No one gets paid a double salary in a month with 5 weeks in it.
The problem is that UC is calculated by a 4 week cycle, and employers pay monthly, leaving people with no UC top up in months with 5 weeks in them.
They would not get any extra money. Thats just not how it works.

Actionhasmagic · 11/12/2019 21:02

So sad

ethelfleda · 11/12/2019 21:11

Thanks OP. I did watch it and found it very moving.

Someone’s argument today for not trying to help the homeless or people living in poverty “some people who earn £125k aren’t living flash lifestyles you know, they have to spend quite a lot to live near London” and “yeah but when there are people who will have 5 kids they don’t really deserve help, do they”

This is the fucking society I live in today and it makes me feel sick. We are higher rate taxpayers and I would happily pay a whole lot more!

rhubarbcrumbles · 12/12/2019 08:20

It's depressing that so few people have apparently watched this.
Please just watch the bit at 2.48 - watch it after you have voted if you think I am posting this for political gain. I am not, just watch it and donate to a homeless charity. Please.

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