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GP refused me Valium for a long flight

229 replies

MinesaBottle · 10/12/2019 19:35

DH and I are flying to Australia next week for a family funeral. I don’t cope well with flying at all, and for the last few years I’ve gone to the GP and been prescribed a few 2mg Valium for the flights (we’ve already been to NZ this year - another funeral) and last year (dsd’s wedding). Which is a way of saying I’ve taken it on long flights before with no issues. I don’t drink alcohol on flights either.

I went to the GP today to ask for some Valium or similar and she flat out refused! She said she won’t prescribe Valium for flights because ‘you won’t move around and you’ll be at risk of DVT’. How much did she think I’d take?! I’ve flown on it before and always been conscious (I can’t sleep on planes anyway) and moved around; I always get an aisle seat so I can get up. She prescribed propranolol instead; I’ve never had it and it only calms physical symptoms of anxiety, not mental ones (is what she said). I’m also worried it might interact with paroxetine; she said not but didn’t actually look it up!

Weirdly I was in tears when I got in—I think because of the disruption to my usual routine when flying. I feel like she was judging me too. But regardless, should I see a private GP (there’s one near work) and see if they would prescribe five or six Valium or similar? I need the mental calming too. I have ADHD and my thoughts race at the best of times, never mind on a long flight heading to a funeral!

OP posts:
MozzchopsThirty · 11/12/2019 22:03

I love some of the pearl clutching on this thread

You take diazepam and alcohol - that's beyond stupid 🙄

Blah blah whatever! A few mgs of diazepam with a few pints is not going to see me in respiratory distress

Re ZOPICLONE - ahh love this stuff!!!
I bought it OTC in Palma airport
If you catch the right pharmacist at the right time you can get most things

MozzchopsThirty · 11/12/2019 22:04

Oh and another thing, if my plane is going down I sure as hell want to be off my face or fast asleep for it thank you very much

Forgotmy · 11/12/2019 22:09

The ordinary folk who absolutely need a bit of help now and then are totally forgotten.

What are Benzos presribed for if no GP will write a script now? Just wondered.

Are these drugs banned?

BellyButton85 · 11/12/2019 22:12

These 'nervous flyers' that insist on having something prescribed to fly, I think, should just not fly. If your going to die then your going to die. Stop being so wet

XXcstatic · 11/12/2019 22:29

Re ZOPICLONE - ahh love this stuff!!!
I bought it OTC in Palma airport
If you catch the right pharmacist at the right time you can get most things

If this thread demonstrates anything, it's that GPs are right to be cautious about prescriptive addictive drugs, because lots of the public are absolute idiots dangerously blasé about the risks.

kinsss · 11/12/2019 22:39

I just love those who are so perfect in everything they do. FKN hypocrites..

Let s/he who is without sin cast the first stone.

MozzchopsThirty · 11/12/2019 22:43

I'm not an idiot
I'm a trained medical professional
I can't get my panties in a wad over medications

MozzchopsThirty · 11/12/2019 22:49

I appreciate that people can (and sadly do) make fatal mistakes with meds
But I know what I can and can't take, so you call it blase and I call it informed

For the OP asking for a few 2mg is not a 'red flag' or sign of addiction.
Diazepam are incredibly cheap too

kinsss · 11/12/2019 22:57

There will always be the Holier than Thou Brigade. But they may never have suffered like many of the lecturers do either.

Consider yourselves lucky and lecture away. Does it make you feel good about yourselves? Any empathy at all?

LaMarschallin · 11/12/2019 22:57

MozzchopsThirty

I'm a trained medical professional

Not a doctor, then?

messolini9 · 11/12/2019 23:00

MN Bingo - the Edgelord has arrived ...

These 'nervous flyers' that insist on having something prescribed to fly, I think, should just not fly. If your going to die then your going to die. Stop being so wet

... perhaps shortly to be accompanied by the grammar police ...

kinsss · 11/12/2019 23:02

Some people have no empathy at all.

But it is born from a sense of "I know everything". OK. As if.

Apirateslifeforme · 11/12/2019 23:11

Sorry not RTFT. Propranolol has really helped me, but I've just started buspirone. Makes me feel really quite calm, Dr prescribed me some more for a flight.
Maybe it's worth a go?

MozzchopsThirty · 11/12/2019 23:15

@LaMarschallin 🤣🤣 why do you think nurses are doctors handmaids?

Good luck if you're ever in hospital in early August! You'll be praying for a nurse

Anyway smart arse, I'm a nurse and nurse prescriber

LaMarschallin · 11/12/2019 23:18

MozzchopsThirty

@LaMarschallin 🤣🤣 why do you think nurses are doctors handmaids?

Not at all. I've just never heard a doctor describe themselves as "a trained medical professional".
It sounds jolly good though.

BitOfFun · 12/12/2019 00:34

Nurse Prescribers are the shizzle.

dontalltalkatonce · 12/12/2019 03:09

God, seriously, she's right. I'm up just now because I didn't take my zop. I buy it in Spain, or others buy it for me. I've tried everything, but sorry not sorry, I have complex PTSD and cannot get to sleep otherwise, and believe me, I've tried EVERYTHING. I can fly long haul no bother, it doesn't bother me, but I'd rather drop acid from an unknown supplier than do blue/diazepam again, the last time I was prescribed it was so bad. It doesn't work for me, but it does work for the OP, so by all means try the alternative but if it doesn't work, go PushDoctor or private and ignore the pearl clutchers. Whatever works! I would happily fly all over the place, but to get me to sleep, ha! Zop or nowt.

dontalltalkatonce · 12/12/2019 03:22

I bought it OTC in Palma airport
If you catch the right pharmacist at the right time you can get most things

You don't even have to do that if you speak Spanish. Smile If they don't have it, they know someone else who has. It's all of about 20€ for 14 7.5mg tabs, you break them in half and top up with whatever. What I do not recommend is that tab split in half, 50mg promethazine and 50 of doxylamine. That shit will leave you stoned for hours, trust me! You will sleep, for hours but still be utterly melting for about 10 hours after you wake.

Hilda44 · 12/12/2019 03:28

My doctor has always been fine with it, just tells me not to go mad on the booze in case of falls. I don't drink on planes.

PenelopeFlintstone · 12/12/2019 03:35

I just checked with my friend from Oz who was recently prescribed Valium for flying.
She said the first doctor said no but also wouldn’t refer her for gastric surgery. Her new doctor did refer her for gastric surgery and also gave her a script for 50x 5mg Valium when she only asked him for 12 (for multiple flights)
.

Missillusioned · 13/12/2019 14:36

I dunno if all the worriers are thinking about a different Valium from the one I've taken. It doesn't make me drowsy at all or slow reactions. I remain perfectly clear headed but anxiety free.

It does affect different people differently, but the OP has had it before without I'll effect.

And given that they sell alcohol on flights, I'm not sure slightly slowed reactions are such an issue anyway, otherwise surely noone would be allowed to drink?

MinesaBottle · 13/12/2019 16:12

This is true, I’m not impaired on 2 or 4mg because as others have pointed out it’s a very low dose. I read, watch films, eat, get up and walk around, stretch etc - I’m just not anxious. And presumably all those women prescribed Valium back in the day still managed to get the housework done seeing as they were basically given it to combat the screaming boredom!

I will try the walk in but I’m also going to try a propranolol tomorrow and see how I get on. If it works well then all good.

OP posts:
Interestedwoman · 13/12/2019 16:16

'presumably all those women prescribed Valium back in the day still managed to get the housework done seeing as they were basically given it to combat the screaming boredom!'

Yeah, to be fair, a lot of them ended up hooked on it tho- but you won't with just a few.

Either way, enjoy your trip. xxx

easyandy101 · 13/12/2019 16:19

Never ask outright for abusable drugs

easyandy101 · 13/12/2019 16:20

Vals are a fucking shitty drug to get addicted to

One of the only classes of drugs where the rattle can kill you

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