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if you aren't already concerned about the NHS look at this

22 replies

rhubarbcrumbles · 08/12/2019 16:05

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/people/it-was-chaos-shocking-photo-shows-leeds-four-year-old-suspected-pneumonia-forced-sleep-floor-lgi-due-lack-beds-1334909

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SarahTancredi · 08/12/2019 16:11

Aw poor boy Sad

Its bizarre really because my experience with hospitals seems to be that there are simultaneously far too many peope involved in your care, all seem to do one small aspect of a task meaning what should take a few mins takes forever because of waiting to see the next person to finished the next part.

Surely it's easier to just put the dressing on over the canular for the drip than stand there holding it for however long it takes a nurse to come and finish it off .

Yet never the staff doing what needs to be done such as discharging patients. Why when you are told you can go home at 9.30 are you still waiting to be discharged 6 hours later..

SarahTancredi · 08/12/2019 16:18

And of course why, when you have been on stand by the entire day for the phone call or waited hours at someones bedside to take them home are you suddenly treated like you are the problem/hold up when they decide the 20 mins you nipped out to pick the kids up from.school is when they will suddenly decide to let them go.

Serin · 08/12/2019 16:18

It's because the staff are lazy SarahTancredi.
They are just sat in the staff room eating chocolates.
Put your brain into gear and have a think?
There are no staff.
Every ward is short staffed.
I come home and sit zonked out, unable to think straight after my shift.
Maybe try shadowing a health professional for a bit if you need to know more.
If you can find one that is.
Most have quit.
I know fully qualified nurses working as teaching assistants, holiday reps and child minders because not only is it less stressful but it's also better paid.

HeIenaDove · 08/12/2019 16:18

"One of the worst nights in A and E" Posted last night on Twitter by Dr Sonia Adesara.

twitter.com/SoniaAdesara/status/1203243581676425217?s=20

SarahTancredi · 08/12/2019 16:30

I never said staff were lazy.

One example like I said was the drip. Dr comes in takes a few attempts to put in a drip in.my dds hand when she was a baby. I say several attempts not to question the drs ability but to emphasise how when the drip was finally placed how important it was that it remained there. He then stood there holding it talking about how he Hope's it didnt come out while he waited for the nurse to come and put the dressing thing around it . Why couldnt he put it on himself after he taped it up hung around waiting for the nurse for a bit then left before they got there. Just seemed daft that he could have been in and out quicker if hed done it himself.

On another occasion another nurse that dealt with us was iv qualified ir whatever it is but all her patients were waiting and she was leaving because she was frustrated that she could be doing stuff that needed doing and saving patients and drs and other nurses time by doing it but she waabt allowed to. again seemed daft to not utilise all your staffs skills when they could really help.

rhubarbcrumbles · 08/12/2019 16:33

Dr Rachel Clarke, a palliative care doctor, is worth following on Twitter too.

twitter.com/doctor_oxford

The thing is, Mr Raab, you also have an NHS track record of shame. Since 2010:

😢 Surgical waiting lists have soared to 4.4 million

👩🏻‍⚕️ District nurses culled by 50%

🏥 15k hospital beds closed

🤕 Cancer waits the worst on record

👨‍⚕️ NHS now short of 43k nurses & 10k doctors

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CoffeeRunner · 08/12/2019 16:38

SarahTancredi your post just shows how incredibly naive you are about what actually goes on.

How embarrassing for you.

Serin · 08/12/2019 16:40

Well rhubarbcrumbles
They need to consult SarahTancredi dont they.
She will streamline our NHS and get us all working more efficiently.
I hope you put in a complaint about your grievances to the hospital Sarah. So that they could waste even more time on an investigation and lead to even more stress for their obviously shit employees.
Jesus wept.

TheMustressMhor · 08/12/2019 16:45

@SarahTancredi

Why when you are told you can go home at 9.30 are you still waiting to be discharged 6 hours later

Have you got a spare six hours so that I can explain this to you?

The NHS is woefully understaffed. Full Stop. Your discharge papers need to be produced - this isn't life-saving work so it will be left until there is someone with a spare few minutes to do it.

You need medication to take home. The doctor has to write the medication on the chart and the pharmacy has to dispense the medication and deliver it to the ward.

Just two reasons why discharges take so long.

SarahTancredi · 08/12/2019 16:45

Where have I said anyones shit?

And our hospital was actually placed in special measures at one point.

HappyHammy · 08/12/2019 16:51

I wonder how many people would just prefer to go home and go to their own pharmacy to pay for a prescription the hospital give them rather than wait for a free one from the hospital.

SarahTancredi · 08/12/2019 16:52

must

was also confused by this. Because on several occasions we came in.with brand new boxes of medication recently prescribed and had to wait for then to re issue the same.prescriptions even though we had loads including two lots of stuff that I'd repeatedly.through the drs and the pharmacy tried to get taken off as they werent needed .like paracetamol ( had a right little back.log of those as no would take take them off.

Always felt massively guilty for these stockpiles that werent needed and took.so.much time.where she could have been out of their way.

TheMustressMhor · 08/12/2019 16:55

Sorry SarahTancredi I am having a good deal of trouble understanding what you mean about the medication.

Where who could have been out of whose way?

Serin · 08/12/2019 16:57

You didnt say they were shit Sarah and
I never claimed that you did.
I said they were "obviously shit" as I surmised that all by myself from reading your post.

SarahTancredi · 08/12/2019 17:00

I was looking after an elderly cancer patient at her home at the time.

Whenever she was admitted we brought in her medication from home. But she was always released With more medication including 2 that she didnt need and one that shed been actively taken off as the side effects caused her serious problems.

She was in and out of hospital.alot near the end and I.had a.massive stock pile of the medications . Just felt like such a waste ..not only of medication she never used because she died. But of a bed that could have been used for someone else but was taken up while she waited for medication a she didnt need. I dis try to get a local.oharmacy to take the medications back.but they could.t. it was just spmetnumh I.felt massively guilty about at the time

TheMustressMhor · 08/12/2019 17:11

I still don't understand SarahTancredi.

Are you talking about an elderly cancer patient or a baby?

SarahTancredi · 08/12/2019 17:12

The drip thing was with my dd.

The medication issue was with an.elderly lady. I felt awful about the piles of.medication we ended up with. Must have been a fair amount of money. I did try and explain and say we had loads but they kept giving us more.

Lunde · 08/12/2019 17:20

Or that GP patient records and data are being sold to US companies - allegedly for "research" but obviously very useful for commercial decisions.
America appears to be pressing for unrestricted access to Britain’s 55 million health records, which are estimated to have a total value of £10bn a year. A minute of one of the meetings says: “On data flows, the critical element highlighted by the US was agreement that no parties will restrict information.” Another US demand is for “data localisation” to be ruled out, meaning the data of NHS patients could be stored on cloud servers abroad.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/07/nhs-medical-data-sales-american-pharma-lack-transparency

Thelnebriati · 08/12/2019 17:29

Legally, how have the Tories been able to get away with this? What mechanisms are in place to say when they have to stop causing harm?

TheHootiestOwl · 08/12/2019 18:22

I wonder how many people would just prefer to go home and go to their own pharmacy to pay for a prescription the hospital give them rather than wait for a free one from the hospital.

We give parents the option of buying their own pain relief, infact often we just tell them to buy it and don’t give them the option, but you wouldn’t believe the amount that would rather sit for 3-4 hours to wait for a bottle of paracetamol from pharmacy then buy it.

HappyHammy · 08/12/2019 19:13

Sadly I can well believe it.

SarahTancredi · 08/12/2019 19:17

How on earth after hours in a&e feeding kids from vending machines in the waiting room cost less than 1.60 paracetamol solution in asda Confused

What is policy on paracetamol in a hospital? On one hand i wasn't t offered so much as a paracetamol on the post natal ward. On the other my care subject ended up with several boxes having not even been taking it on.or during admission ?

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