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Holiday pay entitlement

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Wowserme · 06/12/2019 17:20

This isn’t AIBU, posting here for traffic.
As a teacher leaving my position at the end of March am I entitled to additional holiday pay (pro rata) for Easter & the long summer holidays?
Thank you

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Teachermaths · 06/12/2019 17:29

No.

Teaching is salaried, yearly pay is split into 12 equal payments. Holiday pay is already included in this.

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ShetlandWife · 06/12/2019 17:35

Holiday pay is included in everyone that is salaried's pay, but they still get paid for holiday entitlement not taken.

The difference with teaching is that holidays are set - but if they have taken less holidays than they would have technically accrued, I don't see why teachers shouldn't be paid for it.

I would speak to ACAS for professional advice.

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anypossibleway · 06/12/2019 17:41

Are you going to another teaching job? Because then you’ll get the holiday pay there

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soapboxqueen · 06/12/2019 17:45

No. Traditionally teachers did not get holiday pay. They just got their pay spread out during the year for when they weren't working. Then at some point over the last decade or so due to a court case, 4 weeks of that Non-paid time was reclassified as holiday though it had no impact on working days or pay. It was legal jiggery pokery.

So, if you leave in march, your holidays at half terms and Christmas will count as your holiday entitlement.

I have heard there can be some benefit in this if you go on maternity leave for a year on the 1st of September because your won't have had any holidays but is generally more beneficial to go back just before the summer hols so don't know if anyone has actually used this.

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modgepodge · 06/12/2019 17:55

You will likely get Easter holidays, assuming you are leaving at the end of spring term. In your letter of resignation, make sure enough state your leaving date as the last day of the holidays, not the last day of term, else you won’t be paid the holidays.

That said, if you are at an LA school you can only leave on dec 31st, April 30th or aug 31st (unless you agree otherwise with the head). April 30th is a funny one; it’s likely to be part way in to summer term. If you are leaving to go to another teaching job convention is your head releases you early so you can start summer term at your new school. If you aren’t, the head could insist you work until April 30th, but they may agree to release you early if it suits them.

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Wowserme · 06/12/2019 18:38

Thank you all for your replies, I’m leaving teaching and totally changing my career, so there’s no hope of being paid the holiday pay in my new post.
It just seems unfair that I will lose out on nearly 3.5 weeks holiday, as I’m having to leave before the Easter holidays so I won’t be paid for that.
I would have worked 7/12 of the school year (7/12 of 13 weeks) so By my calculations I should be entitled to 7.5 weeks holiday whereas I would only have had 4 weeks.

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ShetlandWife · 06/12/2019 18:48

Ah, no, you only get paid for 5.6 weeks of holiday in my understanding. Its just is evened out throughout the year. So it's maybe not as much of a loss, as you think.

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Wowserme · 06/12/2019 18:56

I’ve worked out the term dates for the whole academic year Shetlandwife, as there are 13 weeks school holidays and I would only have taken 4 weeks from September to the end of March 2020.
I do hope you are correct in a way as I would feel less cheated.

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soapboxqueen · 06/12/2019 19:10

You don't get 13 weeks paid holiday

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Teachermaths · 06/12/2019 19:15

We only get 5.6 weeks holiday pay (this might even be pro rataed as we work 195 days per year). I'm struggling to find much information online.

Are you being allowed to leave mid term?

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Wowserme · 06/12/2019 20:26

Yes, I’ve been given permission to leave at the end of March as I start training for my new role at the start of April.
Well at least now I know I’m not losing out on holiday leave.
Thank you Very much everyone x

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bridgetreilly · 06/12/2019 20:31

Not all the school holidays are counted as holiday for the purposes of pay. The (reasonable) expectation is that teachers are actually working for some of that time and are paid accordingly.

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