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To be really struggling with 4yo DS behaviour? Sorry it's long.

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TheMasterBaker · 03/12/2019 21:07

As it says really, I'm struggling. I have 2 other DC who are a little older but still school age, we've had the normal challenges with them, moody teen and the hyperactive middle one but compared to him, they are a walk in the park.
I don't want to write an essay or drip feed so I'll try my best.
Since he was around 2.5-3, his behaviour has got increasingly worse, up to about 2.5, I wasn't able to leave him, even going to the loo would result in a massive upset or he'd injure himself (not self harm, but through climbing stair gates for example). It took a long time for him to be happy for me to even go into the next room to put a load of washing on or do some washing up. I spent every day on the sofa with him where he would cuddle me the whole day. I actually took photos of him the first day he was content when I walked out of the room, still in the next room where he could see me, it was like a miracle. I got about 30 minutes that day in the kitchen to potter about before having to return to the boss. I thought that would be the start of things getting easier but I was wrong.
I feel like he's getting worse by the day. Taking him anywhere makes me very anxious because I worry about what he'll do. He attends pre-school 2 days a week (and those are by far the best days of my week) and I try to get him out as much as possible the other days for social interaction, but mainly to tire him out so I'll have less trouble with him at home.
His language is becoming pretty dire and he's very aggressive. He thinks nothing of attacking his siblings, punching them in the face or trying to push them down the stairs are 2 of the favourites at the moment. Biting was a big thing with him and it wasn't uncommon for him to break the skin and leave black and purple bruises on me or the other DCs, that's far less common now and it's been a while since he's done it. He gets bored very quickly, not unsurprising as he's 4, but even visiting family which he enjoys, after the first 20 minutes, I'm very on edge waiting for him to show signs that he's going to go crazy, over-excitement, shouting, throwing himself around, getting rude etc. His middle sibling has no attention span, has always been a fidget, hyperactive, can't sit to watch a whole TV programme, never mind a movie etc so I'm used to having one that gets bored very easily, but he is that, plus the temper and aggression.
When he started at his pre-school, they commented on how sweet and quiet he was, now they're telling me they're seeing more boisterous behaviour from him, which in a way I'm thankful for as it means I'm not the only witness to it if that makes sense? His grandparent won't babysit for him as he really worries them, the older 2, they've always been happy to have since babies, toddlers etc but he's really hard work. Not a dig at the GP at all, just to show it's only this one that's been like this. He's so loud, shouting, tantrums, hysterical crying, then there's the random screeching, doesn't appear to be to any stimulus at all, will just randomly screech which makes me worry he's hurt himself but it rarely is. I don't go running if he screams so it's not like he's doing it for input from me.
No sense of danger at all and will dart off in car parks, when out and about, even with explaining before that he needs to stay with me as cars are dangerous, he could get hurt etc, he'll run off, I'll call him back, he'll ignore, then I end up shouting from panic and he'll mostly stop. He disappeared not long back, he was stood next to me with his friend while I spoke to his friends mum, frantic searching from me and friends and neighbours, we found him sitting silently behind her sofa as he'd snuck in her house and refused to answer anyone as we walked around the estate searching for him. He's so quick, he'll rip his hand out of mine even if I'm trying to hold it tight.
Mostly refuses to do anything I ask, he'll either ignore me or scream no, then there's the slamming doors, stomping around etc. We also get almost a selective mutism type thing, never to any conflict, always to things like 'are you ok?/Would you like this?/Do you want to say hi to GP', you can see he's heard but he'll just not react, you repeat it several times and will eventually get an answer as if it's the first time you've said it.
There's more I haven't written as honestly, I don't want to write a massive essay that people fall asleep halfway through.
I just feel like the worlds worst mother, like I must be massively failing him in some way for him to behave the way he does. I've had friends and strangers ask if he's 'always like that/has he had a lot of sugar or E Numbers/does he have ADHD?'
I feel awful talking about him like this because when he's not like this, he's the most loving child, he loves a cuddle, nap with me on the sofa, very affectionate but then he's like something possessed.

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24hourshomeedderandcarer · 03/12/2019 21:54

everything in your post is crying out to me as defiantly autism, spd(sensory processing disorder)and possible pda

as ive 2 with numerous disabilities each and this has been my life for 15 years

my 9 y old is doing 95% of what your saying,hes still mentally 5/6
he has adhd,asd,gdd(global development delay)
pda(pathological demand avoidance)and spd,

extreme separation anxiety so is still in my bed and when dark come can not be left alone as he freaks out as hes so scared,neither sleep and both need 24 hour care so we(partner also)are literally my user name

there is also a condition called apd audio processing disorder

Fundays12 · 03/12/2019 22:00

I have an autistic son and this all sounds very similar. I would look seriously into getting him tested for autism as the sooner he gets a diagnosis the more likely he is to get the right support in school etc. The screeching to me sounds like a form of stimming to be honest.

Lilacpheonix · 04/12/2019 07:01

Hi OP. Your son sounds very similar to my friend's son who was diagnosed with ADHD, Autism and ODD eventually. I would start with the GP (surprised the nursery haven't picked up on it though?) Good luck!

ShinyGiratina · 04/12/2019 07:15

Go to the GP with all your concerns (with examples) written down. It is likely that there could be processing/ sensory/ neurological differences. Keep a record of his behaviours and likely triggers to help you identify ways that you can tweak your usual style to work with him.

Most people tend to find neurotypical children settling down and getting easier to reason with by this age.

ohgetyou · 04/12/2019 07:23

Afraid to add sounds like autism, he sounds like one of my two who also has ADHD

biggles50 · 04/12/2019 08:30

You certainly aren't the world's worst mother. You sound loving and caring. First stop GP, good luck.op.

TheMasterBaker · 06/12/2019 13:42

Thank you everyone. I've been feeling rather overwhelmed so have just come back on. I spoke to nursery this morning who said he is becoming more challenging and they actually had a staff meeting discussing his behaviour last night. Is it strange that was a relief to hear? I said to her that I was relieved they can see it too and she recommended getting him in to the GP and go from there.. She added that at the moment he will sit on the mat when asked but sounded as if she didn't expect that to be for much longer as he's constantly running around etc.
I called the Dr and they've actually got him in this evening. Anyone who knows me will probably guess my identity, especially after this, but I adore my dogs and we are very much dog people, kids have all been raised to respect and be kind to animals. Yesterday he hit one of the dogs. Dog just walked up to the sofa where he was along with DGP and DD2 so hadn't hurt him or anything. He's never done that before and it really made me think there has to be something going on. It's awful that he will attack his sisters but hitting the dog is a massive thing. They're the most laid back dogs, thankfully large breed, sturdy dogs so unhurt (but I know that's not the point at all!) they're both very used to young kids but there's no way I want them to ever have to tolerate something like that.

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