To think men should be speaking up against Farage's comments in the TV debate

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Where Farage said something along the lines that all men say silly things when they've been to the pub or some such nonsense (about 'grab em by the pussy' type comments)
I was expecting to see men in the media, on twitter etc denouncing this but have not seen anything. I think rather than just letting it wash over them, men should actively be saying no, that's not what we do or say or think. AIBU? or do you think there's no need to speak up because we've reached a point where we can assume NAMALT. Because I don't feel like we've reached that point yet and I think men need to do more.

Haven't been watching the debates cos i enjoy my current liberty

He really is a fucking revolting specimen though

I think YABU to think there is an obligation on any member of a class to denounce another member of their class on your behalf. If you disagree with it, say it yourself.

Some men do say things like that though.

Others don't. What more needs to be said? Those who don't share his odious opinions don't need to tweet just to get head pats from women. Those who go all out with the performative outrage are usually subtly sexist in myriad ways.

I'll bet you that most of the guys yelling as loud as possible that they are nothing like Farage are the same as those who chant TWAW, or believe they're entitled to women's attention because they label themselves feminist. They're just trying to earn woke points. Most folks I know see that sort as being equally contemptible as the Farages and Trumps of the world and quietly get on with just and egalitarian personal conduct.

Ive not seen the interview but if it was about Donald trumps pussy comment, it wasn’t made in a laddish drinking environment. It sounded calculated and abusive, treating women like pieces of meat. Men (and women) can have baudy conversations, but I think Trumps comments go beyond the pale - his advice of how to get something he wanted without caring of others body autonomy shows a selfish and abusive nature unbecoming of his job.

He wasn't defending Trump's comments though was he? He described them as "crass, crude and wrong" to be precise.

Some people say stupid, inappropriate and crude things in some environments (not 'some men' or 'some women', some PEOPLE).

So actually I AGREE with Farage, his comments were "crass" and sometimes men DO say stupid things.

Just to explain to the OP that the reason I don't speak up about anything Farage says, is because I really haven't a spare milliseconds processing power to waste on a hypocritical swivel eyed loon like him.

Other men may have a different take ....

I think when Farage says men say stupid things he wasn't saying it in an apologetic way, just a pat you on the head 'don't worry dear that's what men are like' way.

I've enjoyed reading the responses and genuinely can't decide if I'm aibu. I can see the line that it's not worth responding to. But, just shrugging and ignoring it feels like it's just going yeah some men are like that. Rather than, they are but they need to stop being like that.

Yes i find when i get drunk i always talk about cock grabbing.

I hadn't even heard those comments but I'm certainly not surprised. I'm in two minds about it personally. Yes, I agree that we shouldn't put up with sexism. But if we make too much fuss about Farage, we're giving him far more attention than he merits and I think he would relish that.

It's best to treat him with the contempt he deserves; he's nothing more than a windbag who likes the sound of his own voice.

So actually I AGREE with Farage, his comments were "crass" and sometimes men DO say stupid things.

It's pretty mild criticism though really

If a mate of mine relayed his seduction technique was effectively a sex crime I'd have a bit more to say about it than it was crass crude and wrong

If men were obligated to issue a statement everytime another man said something undesirable, we'd habve little time for anything else.