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AMIBU to not want to spend time with my SIL?

48 replies

KittenMama93 · 03/12/2019 10:56

Sorry for the rant but my SIL is really getting to me. She has done a lot in the 4 years we have been family to annoy me but now I have had enough. When I met DH, his brother asked if we wanted to take nephew out on trips so that DH could spend time with him. SIL refused to let us take him anywhere she didn’t pick herself so we ultimately refused to take him anywhere. This upset my DH as he loves spending time with his nephew and eventually MIL stepped in and spoke to my BIL to explain to his wife that she couldn’t tell us where we could take him seeing as we were paying for everything. Months later she started letting us take him to places that we picked, like the zoo and aquarium, but would ring every half hour and make nephew upset with each call saying, “I miss you so much I’m crying”. We would stop answering her calls but then BIL and MIL would ring asking why we were ignoring SIL. We started taking him swimming (as SIL cannot swim), bought him new costumes, goggles, and equipment. His goggles would leave little rings around his eyes and each time I was getting him dressed, I would find bruises on his back (they have 5 large dogs so I never suspected anything wrong, just rough housing with the dogs). We would get a call after we dropped him off at home asking why he had rings on his eyes and why was there bruises that were not there before. We would point out that they were and the rings where from goggles, but she would insist the bruises were not there that morning. I got sick of being accused so stopped taking him, which they then kicked off at so MIL paid him to have private 1-2-1 lessons and they refused to take him. We recently announced that DH and I are expecting our first child and she has not spoken to me once since the announcement. She comes to MILs every Sunday for dinner and not once in the 6 weeks since the announcement has she spoken to me. For nephews birthday last week she sent fancy invitations to all the family except DH and I, telling us it’s a kids party and only family with children have been invited. However, her two brothers were invited and they don’t have children, but then BIL rang to ask why we hadn’t dropped off nephews bday present. I have asked to stop coming to family dinners because she is making it so awkward and uncomfortable and only DH is backing me up. MIL says that because SIL cannot have any more children, I should be more understanding and courteous to her situation but she actively refuses to talk to me and I have heard her tell MIL and BIL that I will be a bad mother; I am so sick of her.

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Raspberrytruffle · 03/12/2019 12:19

She sounds like a cunt, people saying you forced her to give you the child um no you didn't you were asked by bil to take him out to which you simply refused sil silly shit and didn't pander to sil good on you I say. She sounds very indulged off mil. Stand your ground ignore the silly cow and laugh it off, out mil straight too with everything let her no what sil has been doing behind your backs and dont accept mil excuse on behalf of the brat (sil).

Evilmorty · 03/12/2019 12:24

I wouldn’t let my SIL take my children out either. They don’t believe in car seats. To hear them tell it, I sound mad but the reality is that they aren’t very good with safety. My niece has a black eye every month because they let her walk on the table.

Getting the MIL involved was over the top as well, adding more pressure on her.

Leave her alone and let her leave you alone.

friedbeansandcheese · 03/12/2019 12:25

MIL stepped in and spoke to my BIL to explain to his wife that she couldn’t tell us where we could take him seeing as we were paying for everything.

What a shitty attitude! You have NO right at all to take any child other than your own anywhere! No wonder SIL dislikes you.

But your MIL is enabling her rudeness and bad behaviour, BIL is plain rude ringing up asking where his ds's bday present is, and the whole family dynamic sounds fucked-up.

Scarlettpixie · 03/12/2019 12:33

**MIL stepped in and spoke to my BIL to explain to his wife that she couldn’t tell us where we could take him seeing as we were paying for everything.

This is so wrong. Of course she had a say in where her son goes or doesn’t go. If you don’t like it you don’t take him. If she doesn’t like your suggestion you don’t take him.

The whole family sounds a bit mad but there is no way you’d be taking my child anywhere against my wishes.

Your DN is her son. He is not the property of the extended family!

1Morewineplease · 03/12/2019 12:36

I would take a step back from this. It all sounds like there’s too much going on, emotionally , and you and your partner don’t need this now.

GreenTulips · 03/12/2019 12:37

Run! What a nightmare. How have you kept your temper?

PlutoAjder · 03/12/2019 12:41

If someone tried to explain (then roped in other family members) that they have a right to take my DC anywhere they want 8f they're paying.. and turned off their phones on purpose on the day out... I would not speak to that person again. It's a vicious attitude and thing to do. Really bang out of order.

Her son is not your property. She grew, birthed and raised him - he is not your son.

coconuttelegraph · 03/12/2019 12:47

Why do people entertain all this bonkers shit?

Get on with your own lives but maybe when you have your own child you might realise that the SIL wasn't being unreasonable about you taking her child on random outings but apart from that they all sound ridiculous, why are you engaging with any of it?

JellyNo15 · 03/12/2019 12:57

I bet your SIL is relieved you are having a baby so you will leave hers alone. I had a SiL who thought she had rights to my DC but I put her straight. She may be rude towards you now but I think you brought that on yourself, as she resents you for how awful you made her feel. When you hold your PFB have a think about how you would feel in your SIL's shoes.

MiniEggAddiction · 03/12/2019 13:04

She sounds like she has some kind of personality disorder to be honest. I would just ignore her drama from here on out. Don't altogether avoid family gatherings but don't bother asking why you're not invited to her events and don't hold your breath hoping for any common courtesy coming your way from her.

Rezie · 03/12/2019 13:05

Ehm...should we be worried about the bruises? We are assuming that it's the dogs...

MiniEggAddiction · 03/12/2019 13:06

I do agree with the PP though that of course she can decide where you take her kid. Unless she was demanding you go to Legoland she can certainly veto outings or pick out ones that are likely to work. When my eldest was little I would probably veto some days out (even though they're kid friendly in general) just because I know he'd get overwhelmed.

wictional · 03/12/2019 13:09

See the way I read it is that OP and her husband wanted to take DN to the cinema / McDonald’s or something but the SIL insisted that they go to the zoo / somewhere more extravagant instead...

FrenchJunebug · 03/12/2019 13:14

I feel bad for your nephew but yanbu.

champagneandfromage50 · 03/12/2019 13:27

It does sound like your SIL was pushed into handing over her DS to you, I can’t begin to imagine my BIL turning up and taking my DC and then deciding he was having swimming lessons as the SIL can’t swim? Were you both teaching him or was he having lessons? You don’t need to swim to get in the pool with a baby and by the time there around 3 you don’t get in the pool at all. The swimming lessons is something a parent usually leads on. Sounds like you have all pushed some boundaries and I am looking forward to your DH having the same conversation with his DB insisting he takes your new baby out so he can bond with him, oh and if you get difficult expect MIL to come along too to tell you your BU to refuse The whole thing sounds awful.... maybe take a little time to re read your OP and reflect on your own behaviour

sillysmiles · 03/12/2019 13:50

I know it is the OP who posted this and comments are directed at the OP. And a lot of the comments are that you can't take another woman's child somewhere. But that is somewhat disingenuous.

The child's father, asked his brother to take his son out.
The problem seems to be the child's father and mother were not in agreement to start and this set things off badly.

I do think it was completely unreasonable for her to constantly phone while you had him. That alone would make me never take him again.

Cinammoncake · 03/12/2019 13:52

This sounds like an odd situation all round. I think if the woman was clearly very anxious YWBU to take the kid swimming tbh, if she asked you not to. Are you going to be happy to let her and BIL take your dc out?

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 03/12/2019 14:00

Why are people so obsessed with other people's children?

You mean why are Aunts and Uncles interested in spending time with their nieces and nephews and maybe want a good relationship with them? Afterall the child's father wanted and asked for this couple to take the child out.

I spent a lot of time looking after my nieces and nephews when they were children - but no way would I have been dictated to by anyone where I had to take them. Fuck that.

champagneandfromage50 · 03/12/2019 14:03

sillysmiles that might be the case however if I had my BIL get in touch saying can your take my DC out so you can bond I would have called my SIL to check she was ok about it and check out with her what she wanted us to do.

I do worry that the BIL here is a bully as is the MIl, feel sorry for the poor SIL who calls her DC sobbing and all you can do is switch your phone off.... didnt the OP click that the bloody mother here was distressed - clearly the mum here wasn’t happy about this arrangement.

sillysmiles · 03/12/2019 14:06

@champagneandfromage50
I had my BIL get in touch saying can your take my DC out so you can bond I would have called my SIL to check she was ok about it and check out with her what she wanted us to do.

Where as I wouldn't. I would assume that the child's father is an adult and equal parent.

Is it not an act of sexism to assume that only the child's mother knows or can make a decision about the child?

Witchend · 03/12/2019 14:06

Is this a reverse?

No one could really think they were entitled to take another persons' child anywhere simply because they were paying.

If not: I assume you'll be happy for your db to take your baby anywhere as long as he's paying.

Wendyasbury · 03/12/2019 14:10

You have no right to take her child anywhere without her ok.

PepePig · 03/12/2019 14:48

So glad you aren't my SIL. What an entitled attitude you have. It's funny how you're pregnant now yet want nothing to do with her... you having your own child and not needing to steal hers have anything to do with it?

I'd want to avoid you as well. Your husband, BIL and MIL sound bonkers- what on earth have you married into Confused

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