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To think my colleague should have asked before including my photo in a quiz

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mastertomsmum · 02/12/2019 15:07

So, this morning, people who have been doing a quiz have been coming up to me and saying they thought my baby phot was cute/funny/difficult to guess.

I was initially mystified and now a bit miffed to discover that the 'Quizmaster' had used a photo I supplied last year for a 'pictures of the Staff Committee as babies' intranet feature that was never used in his intranet quiz 12 months later.

If he'd asked me, I would have said 'yes' but he didn't.

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mastertomsmum · 03/12/2019 13:21

OK - Cohle - it's people saying I'm making a lot of a thing when it is billed and reported as a small thing I'm not going to formally complain about. There was a very nasty reply a few back from your reply there is another right underneath it.

I had a small thing to share and quite a few people resorted to cattiness rather than sensible discussion. The reply described as bizarre is bizarre because it's attributing a value level unmerited by what I've shared and really catty

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mastertomsmum · 03/12/2019 13:23

CuriousaboutSamphire - You need to redo that GDPR course! No, you do and to learn some manner , also

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mastertomsmum · 03/12/2019 13:24

misspiggy19 - no I didn't give permission for the specifics

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MostIneptThatEverStepped · 03/12/2019 13:31

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MostIneptThatEverStepped · 03/12/2019 13:33

Again!

I don't think you ABU.

This is exactly the sort of thing GDPR training should steer people away from doing. Ask for it to be deleted from wherever it's kept.

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mastertomsmum · 03/12/2019 13:36

MostIneptThatEverStepped - cheers Smile

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/12/2019 13:56

I can only repeat, you need to look again at what GDPR actually is.

I am not being rude. I am being factual

Yes, he was possibly unthinking. But he did nothing wrong. Not even under GDPR.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/12/2019 14:06

Maybe I could explain a bit.

You supplied a picture for use in an in house competition. It was hosted on the intranet

The picture has been re-used in the same manner, in the same place, seen by the same people. No external links, no additional information given.

Nothing you did not give freely has been taken away, added, identified etc etc. He has not identified you in any way that you were not already fully identified by any and all people who could have seen that picture.

What is it under GDPR you think he has done wrong? Point out the specific item, the thing the ICO might get exorcised about...

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mastertomsmum · 03/12/2019 14:28

I didn't supply a photo for an online competition. I supplied it for a different reason. To a different source. To a person acting in a particular capacity who no longer holds that role and who used it for another purpose. The only common factor is that it is the same intranet although not the same part of said intranet nor same role (ie it is now in a quiz).

Additionally the photo has been edited/photoshopped, although it is the first time I've given that detail. In part the reason for not saying this was some other posters have been less than nice

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Cohle · 03/12/2019 14:34

I don't understand why you're asking AIBU if you've already made up your mind though?

You've apparently already decided not to say anything about it to your colleague so what exactly is to be gained by arguing about it here? You need to move past this incident.

PanamaPattie · 03/12/2019 14:36

I don't think YABU. You gave permission for another use. You didn't give permission for the recent use. I believe under GDPR, you can withdraw your consent or permission at any time.

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mastertomsmum · 03/12/2019 14:42

AIBU means Am I Being Unreasonable so what I'm saying if you form it into one sentence is 'Am I Being Unreasonable to think my colleague should have asked' . I'm not asking if it would be unreasonable to complain and even if I were I can still ask that whether I have decided to or not.

Use of words like 'arguing' and 'incident' are raised by the catty nature of the replies. One of them has been removed now though, I notice.

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mastertomsmum · 03/12/2019 14:45

PanamaPattie - I am completely where you are on this cheers

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easyandy101 · 03/12/2019 14:59

yanbu

That's not why you gave it and your colleague should have asked

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/12/2019 15:55

Again, that's not GDPR, it's manners.

GDPR is not a general purpose sledgehammer. It is a specific legal set of requirements for data processing.

Which part of that set of laws do you think have been broken?

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mastertomsmum · 03/12/2019 16:14

Personally I do think it contravenes GDPR but I don’t want to continue your argument

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/12/2019 16:28

What argument?

I just don't see which part of the GDPR regs you think he has broken.

You gave a picture of you as a child, identified it as you and volunteered it to be used on your work intranet, Where it still is. The only way it could contravene any of the confidentiality regs is if your employer has any it uses to specifically control data it collects and uses for such informal usage.

What you are talking about is a social happening that is held on intranet. Anything you put up, submit etc is held under whatever regs the company has in place.

People tend to rely on GDPR for all sorts of things, many of which fall outside its scope. If you think this falls inside then I would be interested to know which part of the regs you are relying on.

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mastertomsmum · 03/12/2019 18:18

I don’t want to continue the argument. Agree to disagree. Please realise the important thing is I did not give consent for any photo - altered of otherwise to be used.

New data - some the colleagues doing the quiz got the question right because the name of the person on the photo was used by the person somewhere the IT savvy could easily find it.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 04/12/2019 09:05

New data? It's on your company intranet. Everyone can find it if it isn't in a locked file. As it was collected to be used for all to see I doubt that is the case, it will still be in a public folder.

The alteration of the photo could possibly be an issue, unless he just put a "Can you guess who this is?" type of caption on it, or a Christmas hat!!!

And, contrary to very popular belief, consent is not the be all and end all of GDPR. I don't ask for consent for ANY of the data I process. I don't have to as it is all for my core business. I don't have to ask for consent, so I don't, as it causes all sorts of hassle. I am 100% certain of this as I spoke to the ICO, they investigated my profession, discussed it with the relevant associations and made their recommendations, which I follow!

You did give implied consent... when you supplied the picture to your employer in the first place. Have you looked to see what their policy is regarding information given for informal intranet use?

I know I am being bullish, but GDPR is an important piece of legislation and it is forever being misapplied or misunderstood. So much so that it is becoming much devalued, trotted out as a trite rebuff whenever someone has a facebook spat!

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mastertomsmum · 04/12/2019 12:59

CuriousaboutSamphire - you don’t know when to stop and - as I have previously stated - I’m not going to argue with you.

I will simply say once more that how the photograph was supplied and used is not how you are portraying it and neither are the circumstances

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