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60 replies

Timeforachangeofusername99 · 30/11/2019 19:57

I will definitely vote

My heart is with labour

I live in a lib dem area, with a close conservative second place. Labour probably doesnt have a chance here.

Do I vote Lib Dem, to stop the Tories taking the seat here?

Or do I vote labour?

Does a vote for labour help get them in power, or will it only matter if they get the seat here? In which case I should vote lib dem to keep the Tories out?

Thank you! I feel I should understand the system better Blush

OP posts:
AreYouHavinALaugh · 30/11/2019 21:03

how do you find out who is most likely to win in your area?

bridgetreilly · 30/11/2019 21:05

But yes, pps are right and Boredwithitnow is wrong. Your vote only counts within your constituency election. There is no national total that helps somehow. You elect your local MP. That's it.

bridgetreilly · 30/11/2019 21:06

how do you find out who is most likely to win in your area?

Crystal ball?

You can look up the results of previous elections. You can also look up local opinion polls, but they are notoriously unreliable.

dangerrabbit · 30/11/2019 21:06

tacticalvote.getvoting.org/home/

dangerrabbit · 30/11/2019 21:07

Or www.anyonebutboris.com/ 😜

Dowser · 30/11/2019 21:08

Got to decide by Tuesday
As going away Wednesday
Got a postal vote

Spamantha · 30/11/2019 21:08

Voting Lib Dem in your seat will increase the chance of a Labour government whereas a vote for Labour will be 'wasted'.

Has to be LD really.

HoneyandSpice · 30/11/2019 21:13

OP I was a Lib Dem supporter and member for a long time. But I think you should vote tactically. If you don't want your life and your kids lives to suffer, vote Labour. I'm actually very Green wrg policies. I'm worried about the planet. I think it's disgraceful that he didn't turn up to the Climate Change debate. He didn't because his advisors know that he doesn't know his facts. And that he doesn't care. That particular debate didn't allow him to bellow 'Get Brexit done'
Make your own mind up. Vote for the Party who will support not only you, your family (including in old age, and in case of disability) but always be armed with the facts.

HoneyandSpice · 30/11/2019 21:15

Sorry. 'He' meant Boris / Cons

FourOnTheHill · 30/11/2019 21:27

Wow here’s a lot of misunderstanding on this thread OP. Because we have a first past the post system the reality is you have to vote for whoever is the strongest opposition to the party you hate most IN YOUR CONSTITUENCY. So in your case from what you said that would be Lib Dem. if you vote labour you’re just making it more likely your Tory MP will be re elected.

In my case my heart is with the Greens but we have a good Labour MP and I will vote for him as it would be silly to weaken his majority and risk a conservative MP taking his place.

You really can’t just ‘vote with your heart’ because the system doesn’t work like that. Well you can but it won’t help shift the Tories from power.

Spamantha · 30/11/2019 21:29

OP I was a Lib Dem supporter and member for a long time. But I think you should vote tactically. If you don't want your life and your kids lives to suffer, vote Labour.
This doesn't make any sense. OP is apparently in a current LD seat in which the Torries are second and Labour way behind. In one breathe you tell the OP to vote tactically then contradict it in the next.

Spamantha · 30/11/2019 21:30

FWIW, I'd vote Lib Dem if they had a chance in my constituency, unfortunately they don't so I'll be tactically voting for Labour.

lovelyupnorth · 30/11/2019 21:31

Lib Dem.

I’m having the opposite I want to vote Lib Dem but going to end up voting labour.

MadameJosephine · 30/11/2019 21:33

I’m a Labour Party member but if I lived in a Tory/ Lib Dem marginal I’d vote Lib Dem. it’s the best hope of keeping the Tories out.

RoseHippy1 · 30/11/2019 21:34

If I was you I’d vote LD to keep Tories out

Spamantha · 30/11/2019 21:38

'Voting with your heart' would be all well and good in a PR voting system, or if the two main parties weren't quite do polarised right now, but it smacks of reckless privilege to me at the moment.

bridgetreilly · 30/11/2019 21:40

Because we have a first past the post system the reality is you have to vote for whoever is the strongest opposition to the party you hate most IN YOUR CONSTITUENCY.

Yes but in THIS election, that is very, very difficult to know in most constituencies. Plenty of leave-voting lifelong supporters are voting Tory because of Brexit. Plenty of remain-voting Tories are voting LibDem. Plenty of people have literally no idea who they will be voting for because they're all so awful. Tactical voting is only worthwhile if you have a good idea who the main contenders are and can work out the best way to oppose them. I think most of that is up in the air this time. Certainly in my constituency, I have no idea what is going to happen.

FlyingFlamingo · 30/11/2019 21:44

Vote Libdem.

Vote whoever can get the Tory candidate out.

I voted Labour (safe labour seat, postal vote already gone!) but if the Libdems, Plaid or Greens had a better chance I would have voted for them.

I am more drawn to Labour than any other party but my priority is to get the Conservatives out and I will do whatever it takes to do so.

FourOnTheHill · 30/11/2019 21:46

BridgetReilly yes that’s true for some areas of course. So I guess you can vote with your heart? But many constituencies are still pretty predictable I think. In mine there are labour posters in many windows as usual, and I’ve not seen any for any other parties.

RevIMJolly · 30/11/2019 22:04

In your situation I would vote Lib Dem.

You have to think of your vote as a vote not only for a candidate, but also against another. (Or at least your vote will cancel out a Tory one.)

At least you have a clear idea what you want.
I’m a left of centre remainer and my tactical vote would be for the Lib Dems, but I am struggling to vote for them because they’ve told me to go fuck myself because of my views on sex and gender. ☹️

KenDodd · 30/11/2019 22:16

If Labour have no chance I'd vote Lib Dem if I were you.

How will you feel if you vote Labour and wake up on the 13th with a Tory MP and Boris in number 10?

Timeforachangeofusername99 · 01/12/2019 07:24

Thank you all, that's helped clear things up for me.

If I vote Lib Dem but wake up to a hung parliment and a tory/lib dem coalition I wont feel any better than waking up to a Tory government.

I have friends who are voting Tory despite being lifelong lib dem supporters because they are worried a brexit party candidate will win.

I should add that the long standing lib dem MP has just retired, so many people voted for him not for the party and as such aren't necessarily going to vote for his successor, so there is a fair chance the tory or Brexit party candidate will win the seat.

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Stooshie8 · 01/12/2019 07:29

I am against their pro-gender id stance. Anyone can be any sex by choice. That works against women imv. Tory for me.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 01/12/2019 07:44

Are you in a leave or remain area?
Because if a high proportion of people voted Leave they're unlikely to vote Lib Dem.

tttigress · 01/12/2019 07:48

Vote with you heart, vote Labour, the libdems have a terrible record on women's rights.