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What is it about British holiday makers and full breakfast?

425 replies

MonaLisaDoesntSmile · 23/11/2019 17:58

The other day I was wathing randomly Four in a Bed. The hosting B&B had an amazing (for me) choice of breakfast foods- loads of nice cereal, yoghurts, fresh fruit, cold meats, cheeses, freshly baked bread, most locally picked/made, seasonal whenever possible. Every couple on the show complained that there was no cooked breakfast option and rated the B&B really low on the breakfast front because they didn't get to have their fry-up.
Another time I watched snippets of a programme showing people to travelling around France, again all complaining that they don't get to have their bacon and beans, but were offered French breakfast instead. There was a time when I worked in a hotel abroad over the summer and likewise saw plenty of British tourists who would refuse to have breakfast if they didnt get their fried eggs and would moan there was no bacon or fried beans. Now mind you, I love eggs for breakfast, but I also ate plenty of other stuff that are available.

Asking here as I am a foreigner and back home we are not really religious about our breakfasts- sometimes we have cooked breakfast, sometimes a sandwich, sometimes cereal, and I have never in my life met a fellow countryman who would complain as much about not having specific foods on offer, especially when abroad. And out of all the British people I know, very, very few actually have a fry up for breakfast, not mentoning having it every day. I didn't get that vibe to from tourists from other countries, not the same extent at least.

I know that while abroad or generally on holiday you sometimes want to eat something familiar, but don't really understand why people are so upset to not have the food they don't even eat at home every day offered while away every day?

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Basilicaofthemind · 23/11/2019 23:24

I’d be shocked and disappointed if a B&B didn’t offer a full English. It’s part of the experience. I wouldn’t go so far to say as it’s why I’m staying in a B&B in the first place, I think it’s more that the breakfast makes up for the surfeit of pine furniture and dodgy plumbing really.

Oliversmumsarmy · 23/11/2019 23:27

If I ate a fry up for breakfast I couldn’t eat anything else for the rest of the day.

At home I have berries and yogurt with seeds or maybe some hummus and olives.

The only thing I would eat off a full English is the mushrooms and tomatoes.

SpaceDinosaur · 23/11/2019 23:28

Because it's a treat for most.

Going away is usually an "event" and a "treat" and a cooked breakfast is, for most of us a luxury which we look for as per of the treat experience.

tabulahrasa · 23/11/2019 23:32

“If I ate a fry up for breakfast I couldn’t eat anything else for the rest of the day.”

Well that’s pretty much the point of one though...

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 23/11/2019 23:34

Because it's a treat for most.

Exactly.
I can have croissants or cereal any day of the week, but I never have cooked breakfasts at home.
Unless I go to the local cafe occasionally (very occasionally!) for a change.
I'd be pretty gutted if I was at a B and B and there wasn't the choice of a cooked breakfast! I want sausage, bacon, mushrooms, tomatoes, beans!
OK, gutted is OTT, I'd cope without, but you get my drift lol

quitecontrary123 · 23/11/2019 23:43

Was it the episode where all the food was set out in the kitchen and they had to help themselves, including making their tea, coffee etc? I think it was more the point that you expect breakfast to be provided for you in B&B otherwise you may as well be staying self-catering.

PreseaCombatir · 24/11/2019 00:05

If I was abroad I wouldn’t expect it, but a B and B in the UK? Yes. Would I be pissed of if they only had cereal and cold cuts? Yes.

The OP wasn’t even just about abroad anyway, as it blatantly was talking about the hotel show.

It’s boring hearing all these people slag off ‘the British’.
I wouldn’t mind if they say where they’re from, but they never do...

Sashkin · 24/11/2019 00:19

Most of our UK holidays are activity holidays (running, cycling, walking etc), so I do usually want something hot for breakfast. Not a full English, usually just scrambled eggs on toast, but I need more than a croissant to run a half marathon.

Overseas, I'll have what I'm given. I have to say, in my experience there are usually hot things on offer anyway (I'm thinking Sweden, Austria, Switzerland, Germany, Canada, US - all had variations on toast and eggs, and most places had a hot buffet with sausages and bacon plus pancakes, waffles, omelettes etc), but the rest of the time cheese and bread, or boiled eggs, or anything like that will do.

PhoneLock · 24/11/2019 00:32

OP your post was about the British insistence on their own food when abroad. Something that all the other more "reasonable" nationalities don't do apparently

Some must because there are aisles of eastern European and other international foods in most major supermarkets.

Butterisbest · 24/11/2019 00:41

If I ate a fry up for breakfast I couldn’t eat anything else for the rest of the day

The only thing I would eat off a full English is the mushrooms and tomatoes.
So Oliversmumsarmy , mushrooms and tomatoes would fill you up soooooo much you couldn't eat anything else all day.

DuchessofWoke · 24/11/2019 00:50

I would NEVER cook a fry-up.

On holiday? It’s a treat. It’s a tradition. It’s part of our heritage.

Personally I wouldn’t only want it in the UK or Ireland. It seems a bit odd to request it abroad. We spent a long weekend in Ireland recently and had a full Irish every morning - we barely ate again until dinner.

Obviously we don’t go on like that at home.

DuchessofWoke · 24/11/2019 00:51

*WOULD only want it

Motoko · 24/11/2019 01:45

I love a fry up for breakfast (minus the meat) but don't have one at home very often, because it's such a faff, so I would be very disappointed if I was staying in a B&B in the UK, and they didn't offer one.

However, I'm happy to have croissants in France, but the best holiday breakfasts I had while abroad, was in Chicago. It was a buffet, and had, hardboiled eggs, porridge, waffle mix with a waffle maker, yoghurts, pastries, cereals, fruit, and bread for toast. DH and I would fill up on the breakfast, so we didn't need to eat again until the evening. We often reminisce fondly about those breakfasts!

BanKittenHeels · 24/11/2019 02:03

The British are the only people critised for sticking to what they want.

Apart from when people come here from other countries and want “foreign food” or don’t speak English. Then they have people protesting against them.

HUZZAH212 · 24/11/2019 02:06

Oh come on! OP - 'I'm not a native from the UK, but from the continent (so I enjoy a continental breakfast, but won't specify from which country I originate). I basically think people from England are a bit of a wanker for enjoying a traditional English breakfast, vs a continental one. However! 'I enjoyed a traditional Chinese breakfast (when highlighted by other posters I might be being a bit culturally shitty). But it's still okay to be underlying culturally wanky towards British folk enjoying a traditional style breakfast in a British B&B.. Because they're British and we can bash the British all we want. But lets not pull any other nation up on enjoying a traditional meal. Why is it fair game to be negative towards the British? I'm the first to admit I'm not historically proud of being British. But I'm bloody sure I'm not going to be shamed into enjoying a 'typically cultural meal', that's been highly popular for over 100yrs, because someone's giggling and thinking I should prefer a sandwich instead.

Graphista · 24/11/2019 03:28

It was I believe invented as a way to attract people to using British hotels and b&b’s when the tourist industry in the uk was first catching on to the masses hoidaying.

I’m veggie and I STILL love getting a good veggie fry up if I stay in a b&b or hotel, most places do now thankfully have veggie breakfasts as standard but back in the day I had to “special request” the veggie items to make up a full breakfast.

At home just now my appetite is quite poor and I’m demotivated on cooking generally due to health issues but a fry up does appeal sometimes. Even better Sainsburys now sell veggie square slice! Which I recently tried for the first time and it is yummy!! Highly recommended. So my fry ups are quorn rashers, veggie slice, tattie scones, eggs, mushrooms, maybe tomatoes, toast and the obligatory mug of builders tea.

With my appetite as it is at the moment it really feels like a “blow out” meal and I eat slowly.

I’ve not only holidayed but also lived overseas, and I have friends/family who are not British and I have to agree with pp that people from other nationalities can be just as fussy about certain foods/meals, I have a Dutch friend who bemoans the lack of decent pickles in Uk, an Italian one who rolls her eyes constantly at the British idea of Italian food which bears no relation to her idea of it.

Personally my favourite is a German breakfast as I LOVE cheese and different breads and crispbreads etc but I am also partial to any involving far too many butter sweet pastries.

I had a lovely experience in a Spanish hotel which wasn’t in a part where there were loads of British tourists and generally catered to local tastes once they clocked my love of yolky fried eggs and their delicious bread which was thickly sliced and just heavenly toasted and buttered they started prepping my breakfasts before we were even in the restaurant area! But I also loved their, I’m not sure what it was called but it was a lightly spiced rice and egg dish with peppers, tomatoes and other veggies in which was a perfect light lunch BUT I don’t think it’s appropriate or good manners to EXPECT a BRITISH breakfast outside of Britain. But if it’s on offer that’s nice.

I’ve been veggie 30+ years and that includes the time spent living overseas and I’ve not gone hungry yet!

“Well, you can buy eggs and bacon and fry them yourself as well, so what's different here?l the lack of effort,skill and service which is what a customer is expecting is included in the price of a b&b, if there’s no cooking going on at all I’d consider that a poor, lazy service from a b&b and yes, stingy too.

There’s a real knack to cooking British cooked breakfasts as they generally need to be to order as the ingredients don’t keep well and guests may eg request different styles of eggs, and there’s skill in knowing what to cook when and how to serve it all hot. Plus the effort to the washing up as several ops have said.

To be honest that’s not peculiar to the Uk either, in many countries a good quality, personalised cooked breakfast of some description is considered a mark of quality of the establishment.

In Uk yea it is the fry up but as mentioned on thread there are loads of others in other countries, look at USA (which I’ve not yet been able to visit but based on tv/film plus I’ve family there) - eggs “over easy”, pancakes (also with bacon), waffles...

BritWifeinUSA · 24/11/2019 04:06

Every nationality has its quirks and things that are comforting to them when away from home. I live in the USA and where I work we travel to Europe several times a year. The number one complaint from Americans when traveling overseas has to be the bed sizes. They would rather stay in an American chain hotel in Paris trans nice boutique hotel just so that they can get an American king size bed. We have an American king size at home (6 ft 4 inches wide - I think that’s a super king in the UK) and I do enjoy the space but it’s not a deal breaker if I can’t have one when I travel. They also are disappointed to find not all places are air conditioned and not every hotel room has a fridge and a microwave in it.

Horses for courses.

sashh · 24/11/2019 04:19

There is a certain type of Brit who will moan. I worked with one, he wouldn't go abroad on holiday because he had "been once, they say they do English food but they don't, it's different"

20 years later I saw him on TV saying,"I've been coming to Cornwall now for 20 years...".

But I think you are missing something, at a B and B you pay for bed and breakfast, so you expect a substantial breakfast. B and Bs were traditionally only for 1 or 2 nights stay, if you went on holiday for a week you stayed at a guest house if you were working class and a hotel if you could afford it.

The B and B would be a stop over on the way to somewhere else, like PP who mentioned the stop in Dover on the way home from France.

The breakfast should, 'set you up for the day' and mean you either miss a mid day meal or you have something light like a sandwich.

ZaraW · 24/11/2019 04:36

I don't get it either but I'm vegetarian. The best breakfast for me is a Middle Eastern one healthy and tastes so good.

DowntownAbby · 24/11/2019 04:44

Where are you from, OP?

Why do you think it’s only the British who want to have ‘their’ traditional breakfast available when they’re away from home?

How do you think it would go down with locals in France if meats, cheeses and croissants weren’t available in hotels?

I work in Asia more than anywhere else - I’m in KL at the moment - and see lots of people from all corners of the world looking for their favoured breakfast things.

There are 2 Indians working with me right now and they will eat only very particular foods - it’s being brought in for them specially each day at the office.

Earlier this year I was in Karachi for a week and most of the staff in the office there would eat nothing but very, very basic local food. So it was a curry of some sort with rice and bread EVERY day for lunch, and another for dinner EVERY evening that we ate together.

But that’s ok, isn’t it, OP, because that’s oh so romantically cultured and exotic. Not like those vile, uncouth British people who like their traditional breakfast when in a hotel.

Where are you from, OP?

You need to tell us do that we can deride and ridicule your country folk for their traditions.

nakedavengeragain · 24/11/2019 05:02

I think you are missing the point OP. We never eat breakfast. Only lunch and dinner. The joy of staying at a UK B&B is a beautifully catered breakfast that makes the most of local produce and the best of them is the hot breakfast which for us is a massive treat. As PP have said usually there is a long trip ahead of a B&B stayer so a hot brekkie means lunch can be skipped or a light, on the move snack.

Having said that I would certainly not complain about local options at non UK hotels. I'd be delighted, but I'm yet to find a place that didn't have a hot option. Even a tiny place in the Caribbean did a gorgeous local smoked fish and eggs, in the Middle East a delicious chicken sausage and turkey bacon. In India a light curry with various breads.

The best though was Stovies for breakfast in Scotland. With a stinking post wedding hangover that bloody WORKS!

RedHelenB · 24/11/2019 05:36

Both sets of grandparents had a cooked breakfast every day. I do obe on the weekend. And yes, id expect a British B & B to serve one Great to have the continental option as well.as though.

flyingspaghettimonster · 24/11/2019 05:37

When I'm in a hotel I want to feel pampered. So that means a big breakfast spread that I would never bother with if I had to make it and wash up afterwards. I always choose the places based on seimming pool, hot tub and breakfast descriptions because those are what matters most to me in a holiday accomodation.

Doesn't have to be full English, though. Any decent selection of things works for me. I do like hot abd cold options though.

shearwater · 24/11/2019 05:43

I like trying different breakfasts overseas. But in the UK and Ireland I love a cooked breakfast or breakfast buffet.

Continental breakfast is the worst for me, I mean it's very nice but it a horrible combination of making me fat, bloated and yet curiously not filling.

A little bit of scrambled egg on toast fills me up a lot more than calorific pastries.

MonaLisaDoesntSmile · 24/11/2019 07:02

@HUZZAH212 you totally missed the point of what I was asking about. I was not dissing people for liking a traditional British breakfast, but asking why is it a big deal if a place in the UK or abroad died not offer one, knowing that people eat a variety of foods for their breakfast daily and not necessarily a fry up.
As I said, I can have a sausage for breakfast, or yoghurt, or a sandwich, or cereal, or a panini. If I stay away, I'll eat whatever the hotel offers, abroad local food, in the UK whatever it is. It would not put me off not to see my favourites in the menu, but clearly for a lot of people not having a full English is a big deal, and some explained why, instead of throwing a fit taking my question as an Insult.

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