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Residential care home fees, would I be unreasonable to ask how much they are ?

113 replies

frumpety · 20/11/2019 21:31

I have tried to find out online, but the average figures quoted seem a lot lower than the rates at local residential care homes ? Also there doesn't seem to be any info on prices on any of the home websites ? why is this ?

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AlwaysCheddar · 20/11/2019 21:33

Around £1500-2000 upwards a week.

Tulipvase · 20/11/2019 21:34

I would imagine they want to give you the hard sell when you make enquiries as to the cost.

Around here, SE, costs for a basic home are around the 1k mark a week. It depends on what level of medical care is needed.

Chocolate1984 · 20/11/2019 21:36

Husband’s family paid £72,000 a year for their Granny’s nursing home.

Thehop · 20/11/2019 21:38

£1k a week for something very average double for nice masses for lovely

StinkyDora · 20/11/2019 21:39

West Yorkshire. Paying £756 a week. Residential not nursing care which would be more.

Lunafortheloveogod · 20/11/2019 21:41

It depends muchly on the home, the room in that home and what level of care you need (care package) so a price list like a hotel wouldn’t work particularly well. Private is more than council and it usually shows, but that doesn’t mean the staff are any nicer.. nice vases won’t hold anyone’s hand at 3am.

MurrayTheMonk · 20/11/2019 21:41

Prices can vary depending on what you need-even within the same home so that might be why in some cases.

Usually around £1100 per week on average-more in the SE, maybe a bit less up north, for general needs older people.

I currently manage a residential home in the SE, but it's specialist for adults with LD and additional physical needs so a whopping £1404 a week (to be exact 🙂).

PurpleFlower1983 · 20/11/2019 21:43

West Yorkshire, residential with nursing care £966 per week.

onemorecakeplease · 20/11/2019 21:44

Too much! Far too much

Around £1000-1500 a week here in north of Scotland

Who the heck can afford that and selling a relatives house to pay for their care seems so unfair but it's what you have to do!

Someone saves all their life to have a lovely home and it can be gone on two years nursing care :(

ParkheadParadise · 20/11/2019 21:46

That was the first thing I asked when we were looking for a home for my mum.
My sister was mortified Confused.
Turns out it was £1000 a week. It was actually the first words out the carehomes mouth when we visited
Is mum self funding?
If she had been council funded the rate was £800 a week. I never did work out what the £200 a week extra we paid was for.

ParkheadParadise · 20/11/2019 21:51

We also paid for my mum's funeral when we sold her house BEFORE we handed the rest to the care home for her fees
I remember the social worker was bloody furious we had done that.

Pumpkinandpeas · 20/11/2019 21:52

The one I worked in was £800ish per week. No ensuite in over 90% of the rooms, cheapest of the cheap food, little to no daily stimulation/activities. Absolutely awful yet the care home owners house is a mansion, you can see where the money goes.

SlackerMum1 · 20/11/2019 21:52

Don’t be afraid to negotiate though. The ‘extra’ @parkheadparadise is just subsidising under funded council places - private payers are paying an average of 40% more than councils to help homes make ends meet because social care budgets are so underfunded. But if you ask for a discount and research what local authorities are paying locally you might get a discount depending on how subscribed they are

separatedandseething · 20/11/2019 21:53

Care home costs depend on a number of factors:

  1. Self-funding or via LA. The former is usually more expensive. In my LA, the LA rate is around £669 per week. Even if you're assessed as eligible for the LA to completely fund care home costs, they will not pay more than this. So if you choose a home with higher fees, you'd be responsible for any top up fees which would bring it up to what they decide to charge.
  1. EMI with or without nursing is more than General Residential Care.
  1. With nursing care, health might fund the Funded Nursing Element - around £170 pw. Or, if your mum is assessed as having a primary health beed, health could fund all if it. In our area, hardly anyone meets the criteria for FHE
hatgirl · 20/11/2019 21:54

It depends on the type of care

It depends on the type of room

It depends on who is paying.

The same room in a residential care home could attract several different prices depending on the above which is why you can't find the answer online.

movingonbackwards · 20/11/2019 21:55

We paid £970 per week in the "nicest" and most respected/in demand home in our city so it looks like it varies quite a lot.

ParkheadParadise · 20/11/2019 21:55

@SlackerMum1
We did ask about the extra payments and was told that was the homes rates, no discount would be given.

teenagetantrums · 20/11/2019 21:58

About £1500 a week where l work. Obviously us staff get paid minimum wage l would never put a relative of mine here

Dancingbea · 20/11/2019 21:58

London 1-1.5k per week. I agree Op that the average prices quoted are not accurate.

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 20/11/2019 21:58

The one I work in is £450 a day/night.

Lovely home though and mostly 1:1 care.

hatgirl · 20/11/2019 21:58

I remember the social worker was bloody furious we had done that

I'm struggling to think of reasons why the social worker would even care about that. The only time we get involved in finances usually is if we have safeguarding concerns.

honeyloops · 20/11/2019 22:00

A nice(ish) dementia-focused one my gran was in was £1100 a week with nursing care. There are some near me that are closer to £1500 though.

SlackerMum1 · 20/11/2019 22:02

@ParkheadParadise I know no obligation to do it as can charge what they want. But essential no your not getting anything more for that £200 just subsidising the room next door. But it does hurt to ask as depending on occupancy you might get a better deal. Also you can ask local authorities to arrange it for you for a fee and they will then leverage their ‘usual rate’ but few advertise the service as it doesn’t benefit the system. However is a right under the 2014 Act

charm8ed · 20/11/2019 22:02

About £1400 in my area

paddingtonbearsmarmalade · 20/11/2019 22:05

My aunt is in a care home just outside Birmingham. I think she pays about £850 per week for a good size single room with en-suite (she made the decision herself to go in and went and found it with her sister). I gather there are bigger double rooms that are much more expensive! The staff there are lovely though, and they have a care home cat!

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