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Environmental meat

79 replies

CAG12 · 16/11/2019 08:19

This isnt really a AIBU, im just really interested in getting opinions and different sides of the arguement.

What do people think of the new plant based meats? Im not talking about quorn, more about the 'burgers' that use animal cells (but not the actual animal) to create 'burgers'. So its not a vegetarian alternative, more about the environment. In the UK I dont think they're sold yet, but in the US they have Impossible Burgers.

Would people eat it? What do people think?

To start off, on the face of it id be all for it but I dont think I know enough of either side of the arguement, hence this thread.

Thanks all for reading 🙂

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CAG12 · 16/11/2019 08:22

Sorry - the title of this should really be 'environmental meat', but now I dont know how to change it

  • [Message from MNHQ: We've edited the title as requested]
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flobonobo · 16/11/2019 08:24

I think it’s a great idea and hope it takes off like a rocket. It’s cells grown in a lab to make meat right?

CAG12 · 16/11/2019 08:27

Yeah. Its cells taken from the animal, then cultivated in a lab and grown enough to make a chicken nugget, or a burger etc. So the animal itself isnt used.

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Plump82 · 16/11/2019 09:04

I love the idea. I dont know enough about it. For example are the animals hurt when the cells are taken? I'm vegetarian due to animal welfare but have to admit i miss steak!

PettyContractor · 16/11/2019 09:09

For example are the animals hurt when the cells are taken?

I assume you only need to take cells from an animal once, or at least very infrequently.

TBH I assumed they'd take the cells from a slaughtered animal anyway.

churchandstate · 16/11/2019 09:10

I don’t particularly trust brand new faddy foods grown in laboratories. Call me crazy. You first.

brighteyeowl17 · 16/11/2019 09:11

I’m vege but I don’t think I’d eat it. No issues with the lab grown side though- worked in labs for years and don’t get why people think they are some creepy scary place- anything done is very regulated!

lottiegarbanzo · 16/11/2019 09:14

I think different products appeal to different people.

There is no one 'perfect' product, or perfect solution to any problem - and there are a plethora of problems that people seek to solve through vegetarianism, or vegnaism, or reducing meat consumption. Then some people just don't like the taste or texture of meat.

So fo rme, as a vegetarian of many years, this has no appeal. I don't want to eat meat or anything that closely resmbles meat.

I can see it would serve a purpose very well though, for people who like eating meat but don't want so many animals to be farmed / farmed the way they currently are / killed etc.

SpoilsburyToastGirl · 16/11/2019 09:15

I think ultimately this is the way that food production will head. Imagine a time in the future where killing an animal to eat will seem very antiquated!

Obviously this will mean that there will be fewer animals overall as we won't need the number we now have for agriculture. Overall I think it will be a good thing and will have the potential to feed everyone, even in places where animal production is problematic for economic or climate related reasons.

EleanorShellstrop100 · 16/11/2019 09:17

I’m with @churchandstate ... you all tuck in and I’ll give it a bit of time and decide later if I’m gonna have one.

lottiegarbanzo · 16/11/2019 09:17

Also, if it's cheap and made globally available in the right way, it could be a good way of getting adequate protein to people who lack this in their diets.

That seems very unlikely though. This will be a heavily protected, licensed product, produced and marketed for maximum profit.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 16/11/2019 09:18

Technically we could use human cells could we not?

CAG12 · 16/11/2019 09:21

The technology would be the same I assume, but morally I think itd be a big no to human bugers 😂

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lottiegarbanzo · 16/11/2019 09:23

And people could eat 'protected species burgers', woolly mammoths and dinosaurs.

HandsOffMyRights · 16/11/2019 09:24

As a vegetarian of 30 years (and struggling vegan of one year Shock) I wouldn't eat this. I don't like the taste and texture of meat and I can't wrap my head round this either regarding my own choices.

However, for meat eaters and sustainability this sounds like the way forward, but I need to do some research as I don't know enough about it.

thedevilinablackdress · 16/11/2019 09:27

I think you should change the title to 'lab grown' meat or similar.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 16/11/2019 09:28

The technology would be the same I assume, but morally I think itd be a big no to human bugers

Purely playing Devil's advocate and trying not to think of the cow in the Hitch-Hiker's guide at least humans could give consent. :)

FamilyOfAliens · 16/11/2019 09:29

Same, Hands.

I don’t even like the burgers made with beetroot as they look too much like rare meat. I like burgers made with legumes and vegetables.

funmummy48 · 16/11/2019 09:29

As a meat eater, I wouldn't eat this. If it was on a menu, I'd rather eat a vegetarian meal than something grown from cells in a lab. It sounds disgusting. I like my meat to be actual meat.

churchandstate · 16/11/2019 09:30

I really like actual vegetable burgers (not quorn) and it’s probably once every couple of years that I eat a steak anyway.

Whichoneofyoudidthat · 16/11/2019 09:30

Impossible burgers are entirely plant based.

I’ve had one, they taste remarkably ‘real’. I wouldn’t eat them regularly, as they’re highly processed.

malfoylovespotter · 16/11/2019 09:30

If it reduces harm to animals I'm all for it, however as a vegan I still wouldn't eat it as it doesn't appeal to me.

Lockheart · 16/11/2019 09:31

I'd be willing to try it but I wouldn't make it part of my regular diet. I believe natural food is best with as little processing as possible.

LaurieFairyCake · 16/11/2019 09:36

Animals definitely not hurt - it's just like when we do a cheek dna swab for cells.

I mean the cow will be perturbed for a second Grin

My dh is a lifelong veggie for ethical reasons and said he would have no ethical problem eating it but wasn't sure he physically could cope with eating it after so long without it

I'm a flexitarian so bring it the fuck on

MockersthefeMANist · 16/11/2019 09:38

Cows are entirely plant-based. They eat nothing else.

(Unless you feed them their ground-up relatives, but that way madness lies.)