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Becoming a teacher

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renniks · 13/11/2019 09:27

Sorry I'm posting here for traffic.

Calling all you primary school teachers out there...

I have been in limbo for a few years on what I would like to do career wise. My DD has just started primary school and my DS will be starting 2021. I've decided becoming a primary school teacher would be perfect for me. Holidays when the kids are off, a career where I can work my way up and other benefiting factors. I don't have any degrees or A levels however I have GCSE's grade C and above in English, Maths, Literacy, Science, Literacy, Travel and Tourism, Business Studies and not really relevant but Beauty Therapy level 2.

Can anybody give me any advice on what my next steps should be and also if I even have enough qualifications to pursue this as a career choice. I really love the idea of teaching KS1 children.

OP posts:
Xenadog · 13/11/2019 20:44

OP, you should do it. The average length of service within teaching is now just 5 years. There is a very good reason for this, it’s called nervous exhaustion or burn out. Because of this there is a real teacher shortage so do it - jobs should be relatively easy to find .

I know I sound facetious but the truth is I have 21 years of experience and have a 5 yo DD with a super supportive DP. I really struggle to stay on top of my workload and I am exhausted yet I don’t have to spend ages planning lessons like I used to when I was new to the job. Teaching isn’t family friendly except for having the school holidays and even then you will spend a lot of time planning, marking and making resources especially in the early years.

If you really have a desire to teach then speak to trainees, NQTs and RQTs. They can give you a realistic view of teaching. Only if you are 100% sure should you enter the business. Having said all of that and sounding very negative I have to admit I love my time in the classroom - it really is a job that gives satisfaction and a sense of purpose. The problem is teaching now only takes up a small proportion of my time; the rest is spent doing drop ins, running meetings, work scrutinies, data scrutinies, running support packages etc etc. Teaching is no longer about teaching, it is about being accountable and covering yourself.

Inferiorbeing · 13/11/2019 20:57

Don't do it, I spent 20 minutes sobbing in the office today thanks to a class of absolutely arseholes..

But then I was off sick last week and had get well soon emails from some kids who were worried about me..

Idonthaveaname35 · 13/11/2019 22:01

OP has to learn the hard way I’m afraid.

wallymum · 13/11/2019 22:13

Initially I read your post and was going to reply DON'T! But the I read your passionate post about wanting to plan and excited et the creativity of planning and assessment. Go you!!! That's what I loved before getting bogged down. What I would say is master your craft. Get into a year group and master it. Stay there a few years so planning and assessment become second nature then you can focus on wider school initiatives. Don't let headteachers move you constantly, especially when you're newish. Master it. It'll give you good work life balance Go for it!

Sorrywhat · 13/11/2019 22:14

Can I just make a point of saying that I only had GCSEs (did A levels but flopped them!) and I am now a fully qualified English teacher.

My route was to complete an English degree with the Open University then onto teacher training with a local authority. I trained to teach at a secondary but am qualified to teach from primary up to 6th form.

There are lots of routes with different time frames depending on qualifications. If it is something you really want then pursue it - it is a possibility.

Good luck :)

housemdwaswrong · 14/11/2019 01:41

Just make sure that you opt for a degree with QTS. I know some people with an education degree not qualified to teach, but not eligible for funding to do the QTS bit.

AllesAusLiebe · 14/11/2019 04:17

I just wanted to say good luck, OP.

You sound as though you have a great attitude and I think that counts for a lot. I'm retraining for a completely different career at the moment and it's tough going with a young family, but will hopefully be worth it in the end. Hence why I'm on here at stupid o'clock in the morning having just finished an assignment!

All jobs can be hard - anything that commands a professional level salary will involve some level of additional work and scrutiny. It goes with the territory.

A friend of mine landed a job as a TA because she'd been helping out with activities during the summer holidays. She had never worked with kids prior to this but it helped her to get a foot in the door.

SunniDay · 14/11/2019 07:47

Hi OP,
My partner trained as a teacher while I was pregnant and then of course we had a small child in his early years of teaching.

It was a horrible time and I saw so little of him that we gave up our rented accommodation and lived between our parents houses (in different areas of the country) because I saw so little of him I was always alone with our baby.

He left the house by 7:30 in the morning, got back about 7/7:30pm, had tea and then worked again until late. He would also work at least one day of the weekend sometimes both. It was miserable.

Re a previous poster saying don't move year groups my partner always thought/said "it will be better next year I will have more experience/have my planning to reuse etc). It never got better he was always either juggled into a different year group (flexibility/professional development apparently) or the national curriculum expectations had changed.

After 3 years or so he was ill with stress/exhaustion and signed off work. He was off for a month or two and then shaky for a few more weeks to limp through to the summer holidays.

Following being off sick he went back part time (3 days) and we have never looked back. Now a further 6 years have passed and still part time and it is lovely. (I also work now but didn't then with a young child. My (now) husband is able to do ordinary things now that he is part time like help look after the kids, use the gym, go on a bike ride. He played football on a work day evening yesterday so was marking until 1am.

Anyways sorry for my life story but my point is actually if you are able to consider looking for a part time post when you are qualified. All the good parts of teaching without the relentless workload. I think job shares should be the future of teaching as it is almost impossible for expectations and standards to be reduced (stats and league tables are not going away) and two people can meet them without a problem where for one it is awful.

Re the pay I think it's great (sorry teachers). It's the hours that are awful so the hourly rate doesn't end up so great. Whether people think the pay is good or poor depends if you are comparing the job to people earning 60/80k in different professions etc or to retail/care. (I work in care).

My husband (now top of general teacher scale) earns 20k in his 3 days teaching. He still sometimes says he can't see himself teaching forever etc but I remind him he would probably have to work 5 days to earn what he does in general retail and to give up his holidays which are a god send (having children of our own who need school holiday care). I'm a carer and to match his salary would need to be full time/not term time only. If he left teaching I don't think he would find anything else on about 36k full time equivalent.

Of course people do hold down full time teaching jobs and manage their families - even lone parents. They are amazing! Many don't and leave the profession (or don't even start) through choice or get sick and don't go back.

VisionQuest · 14/11/2019 08:02

I admire your enthusiasm OP. Who knows, maybe you will absolutely love the job? Surely there must be some teachers out there who enjoy what they do?

Pinkblueberry · 14/11/2019 08:13

I work part time as a teacher and I think even once my DC are in primary I still wouldn’t go full time yet. Holidays will fit in nicely around them but day to day is hard work - I drop my DC off at childminder’s at 7.30 and pick up at 5.30, which doesn’t leave much time in the evenings - I make tea, do bath and bedtime, prepare lunches for the morning and do other bits around the house and sometimes still have lesson prep or marking to do, although I avoid taking it home as much as I can. I manage maybe an 45 mins of tv before I exhaustedly get into bed at about half 9. I don’t know how parents manage full time!

CaptainMyCaptain · 14/11/2019 09:11

Surely there must be some teachers out there who enjoy what they do?
I don't think anyone has said they don't like the teaching, it's all the other stuff that has gradually been added to the job such as all the constant assessment in Primary leaving less and less time to actually teach.

It's a completely different job to the one I started in 1985.

fedup21 · 14/11/2019 09:16

I don't think anyone has said they don't like the teaching, it's all the other stuff that has gradually been added to the job such as all the constant assessment in Primary leaving less and less time to actually teach.It's a completely different job to the one I started in 1985.

I completely agree.

Just go into it with your eyes wide open. Don’t go into it thinking it’s a piece of piss and teachers are just moaning whingebags or you will make an extremely expensive mistake.

MuchBetterNow · 14/11/2019 09:20

Sorry op but you sound completely deluded. You haven't even volunteered in a school but seem adamant this is the career for you.

In my experience, young single people can just about cope with the workload, teachers with families struggle terribly with work life balance and loads are off with stress.

Snoopdogsbitch · 14/11/2019 11:02

muchbetternow.has it on the button
I still like my job after 25 years but that's because I can now do it with my eyes shut with a wealth of knowledge and experience; new teachers today have it very tough. The conditions are shit, the pay is rotten, the marking and prep is intense, the admin is a fucker and the politics stink- thankfully I love teaching and the kids but I don't know if I'd make the same career choice all over again.

Poetryinaction · 14/11/2019 11:25

How did you do in your GCSEs? You will need at least 5 grade Cs or above, and they must include English, Maths and Science.
It will be a long, hard route in with no relevant qualifications. My sister struggled with a degree in Media Studies. Like many other, she has left teaching now. I had a 2:1 joint honours from a good university and was welcomed onto a PGCE. But I would love to leave teaching.
I love the holidays for spending time with my kids, but I find term time very stressful, and childcare is hard.

Letseatgrandma · 14/11/2019 12:26

however I have GCSE's grade C and above in English, Maths, Literacy, Science, Literacy, Travel and Tourism, Business Studies and not really relevant but Beauty Therapy level 2.

You have a GCSE in English and two in literacy?

FraglesRock · 14/11/2019 12:47

Volunteer in a school
Start a foundation degree
Top up to a degree with teaching status was how I did it.

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