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Boiled eggs on a train court case

326 replies

Iamthewombat · 12/11/2019 21:35

Does anybody else feel sorry for the woman prosecuted for objecting (quite vigorously, I admit) to somebody eating smelly hard boiled eggs on an early morning train?

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/city-worker-flew-into-rage-at-commuter-over-boiled-eggs-breakfast-on-train-from-chelmsford-to-a4284821.html

Because I do.

The boiled egg eater is the very definition of a drama queen. According to the story, she had already been told by a different passenger that the smell of her eggs was offensive but carried on regardless.

After being challenged by the woman who was later prosecuted, she pretended that she couldn’t speak English, then told the police about the altercation. Then pointed the other woman out to police when she saw her on the train five days later!

I know who I support, and it’s not the anti-social egg eater. Who apparently had to eat her eggs in a public place ‘because of her diet’.

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MamaToTheBabyBears · 13/11/2019 07:42

I instantly assumed this was satire. How an earth did this actually end up in court?! The non-egg eater is in the wrong. If they don't like it, they can move to another carriage. I hate boiled eggs but you can't stop people eating... even if you don't like the smell.

LaurieMarlow · 13/11/2019 07:43

If you knowingly (and in this case, wilfully) give offence in a public place, you should expect to receive offence in return.

What fresh nonsense is this?

People are offended by all kinds of things. No one can police that.

Eating an egg is perfectly legal behaviour. Abuse is not acceptable. No it’s not ok.

Hirsutefirs · 13/11/2019 07:44

So- when a rail company themselves sell egg sandwiches on a train, is it a matter for the Transport Police?

Or should they scramble the armed response team?

FairyBatman · 13/11/2019 07:45

Almost all trains have CCTV. I’m quite sure BTP wouldn’t have followed up on a separate day unless the woman really was aggressive and intimidating.

Unless eating on trains is banned the egg eating woman isn’t in the wrong (although perhaps a bit socially unaware) using abusive language on trains is banned so shouty woman was in the wrong.

ShatnersWig · 13/11/2019 07:47

Woman shouldn't have been abusive.

Egg eater shouldn't have been such an entitled twat.

PreseaCombatir · 13/11/2019 07:47

Abusing and threatening your fellow commuters is a crime known to the law of England

Eating an egg is not

Once more for the people at the back...

Honestly, the dramatics on this thread over an egg 🙄

PreseaCombatir · 13/11/2019 07:48

So- when a rail company themselves sell egg sandwiches on a train, is it a matter for the Transport Police?

Or should they scramble the armed response team?
Lol - Eggsellent

EleanorReally · 13/11/2019 07:48

I have eaten a hard boiled egg on the train, it wasnt a commuter train though

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/11/2019 07:49

On what diet do you need to eat boiled eggs at 6:30?

I see people troubling all sorts on their commute (get up earlier and have a bowl of cornflakes for goodness sake) and some things are very stinky. I can imagine a crowded commuter train at silly o’clock must have been just the last straw.

But taking this woman to court? Bloody hell you see gropers, flashers and people spouting unpleasant views - but having a go at someone for eating an egg, Well send her to the tower!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/11/2019 07:50

And yes she shouldn’t have got nasty with the woman.

Roselilly36 · 13/11/2019 07:57

Bigger things to worry about tbh, why don’t please just mind their own business and live and let live.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/11/2019 08:10

But stinky food isn’t very nice - there are even posters on public transport / no feet on seats, no loud music, no booze, no stinky food.

nocluewhattodoo · 13/11/2019 08:12

This whole situation is ridiculous, as are many of the posters on this thread. People must have very little to worry about if some smell on the train prompts these reactions.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/11/2019 08:16

Maybe it was making shouty want to throw up. I don’t think she was pregnant but what if she was suffering from the mother of all morning sickness?

Maybe egg eater had a large Tupperware of stinky boiled eggs and was shoving them in her mouth and chewing with her mouth open, spitting yolk?

We all get the itch with complete strangers on occasion - this just got really out of hand but I don’t think it’s good use of police and court time.

clutchingon · 13/11/2019 08:18

He egg eater should be ashamed of herself over privillidged entitled witch.

PreseaCombatir · 13/11/2019 08:20

Says it all about this place, more concerned about breaking etiquette than breaking the law 🤦‍♀️😂

LaurieMarlow · 13/11/2019 08:22

But stinky food isn’t very nice - there are even posters on public transport / no feet on seats, no loud music, no booze, no stinky food.

In the case of stinky food, it’s more a code of conduct than out and out rules.

It’s so subjective. The things people find stinky on here include coffee, tuna, banana, crisps, you can’t ban everything. Plus if they sell egg sandwiches, the train company can’t really ban eggs.

Abuse is never acceptable, for any reason.

Whether the level of abuse merited court I don’t know as I don’t know the details.

Elderflower14 · 13/11/2019 08:23

I always end up with someone eating sushi next to me on the train.. 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/11/2019 08:23

Sushi doesn’t smell does it?

HeyNotInMyName · 13/11/2019 08:24

I’m sorry but there is no rule/law to say that you can’t eat boiled eggs in a train. Just like people eat tuna sandwiches (often SOLD in trains) etc....
I’m not sure why people think that committing the ‘offense’ (that legally doesn’t exist) of eating an egg in a train means that it’s ok for someone to act so aggressively tbh.

The woman who had an issue with the smell was aggressive. THAT isn’t acceptable in any case. Nor is threatening people with ‘do you know who I am’ etc.... In a different context, let’s say in a street, and you had a man coming to a woman like this being aggressive, coming to their face etc... it would be frowned upon (and would get a similar sentence from a judge). So why not in this case??

And I am VERY uncomfortable about te comment ‘do you speak English?’ It makes me think that the aggressive woman also had a bee in her bonnet about ‘foreigners’.

NewStart571 · 13/11/2019 08:25

I agree that people shouldn’t be abusive on public transport. Yes we might be annoyed by the behaviour of our fellow passengers but it’s wholly unreasonable to shout at people.

However, I was a bit surprised by the relatively high fine imposed.

Dontdisturbmenow · 13/11/2019 08:26

I eat boiled eggs in my very small enclosed office every day. I asked my 2 fellow workers to tell me totally honestly if the smell bothered them (worse have tuna some days too). They said it didn't at all as they were used to strong food smells. I still ask all the time and keep door and window open. I would certainly move elsewhere if it was an issue for them or change my lunches.

The woman eating her eggs was another one selfish commuter. She should have got the hint. It's depressing to read that once again, selfishness is being rewarded and those pointing out to it punished.

What a dreadful society we are evolving into when people showing little consideration for their close environment are being told that doing what they want when they want how they want is the way to behave.

Skinnychip · 13/11/2019 08:27

Maybe she had issues with wind and the eggs were a decoy....?😂

HeyNotInMyName · 13/11/2019 08:28

@PreseaCombatir, yep I agree.

Amazing how all the law abiding MNtters are suddenly happy to support someone breaking the law over a ‘bad smell’...
What next? People who are ‘smelly’, dare eating garlic at lunch when they know they will commute in the evening etc...

Violence and that’s incl VERBAL violence is never acceptable.
If you dint accept that sort if behaviour in your own home and call that abuse, then there is no reason to accept that behaviour in a public place such as a train either.

Deathraystare · 13/11/2019 08:31

Oh dear! I sometimes pack an egg sandwich for lunch. I do get embarrassed how smelly it is however well I pack it! I just hope no one thinks I have done a particularly smelly fart!

I have when very hungry, but try not to eat it on the bus.