To consider Nick Conrad’s comments re rape are disgusting?

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He’s standing as a Tory candidate in Broadlands. Previously stated that women should keep their knickers on to avoid being raped.

I can’t believe in 2019 that someone capable of expressing these type of views is a suitable candidate. Or maybe depressingly, I can.

But he's said he's sorry... And he's sooo disappointed in himself! You hafta feel a bit sorry for him, no?

No.

If he's endorsed and elected, we inch closer to living in Gilead.

It was 5 years ago and was probably worse than you are imagining it.. men have desires, women don't stoke them cos men find it hard not to act on them!

He has had 5 years to learn to better control his mouth, but it is hard to imagine that the ingrained misogyny that allowed him to think it in the first place is so easily eradicated!

The vile little prick also said "it's very difficult for some men to say no when they are whipped up into a bit of a storm". He makes me absolutely sick.

He's trending on Twitter. He won't last.

God, that’s appalling. I work in public sector and if I expressed views like that I’d be struck off.

And Rees-Mogg describing grenfell victims as lacking in common sense - also beyond disgusting. I’d love to hear from some Tory voting MNers how they can support men like these?

I don’t give hoot if it was 500 years ago.
A beast like that should not be helping to run or rather ruin this country. There are probably more attacks (sorry I can’t even type the word. It makes my blood run ice cold) that go unreported that reported and It’s because of I’ll say it again victim blaming beasts like him.
Also may be I don’t get out as much as I like to think I do, but I wasn’t aware women walked around no knickers on.

When I was a teenager in the 1950s, we were convinced that if a man got 'worked-up' it was incredibly painful for him not to get 'relief'.

Does this honestly surprise anyone?

Tories being Tories.

It's absolutely bloody grim that there are people who think like this, and people who don't care and vote for them.

When I was a teenager in the 1950s, we were convinced that if a man got 'worked-up' it was incredibly painful for him not to get 'relief'.

Aren't women still told this? Under a different name? It was called blue balls last time anyone tried to persuade me that it was any concern of mine whether he got released or not

@AwwlookatmybabyspiderI hope to god you don't think I was defending him in any way at all!

He’s being interviewed on Ch4 now.

YANBU. Vile

I agree it all sounds vile when you hear it in sound bites but in a world where so many social cues are tacit rather than directly spoken, isn't being voluntarily in bed naked with a man a fairly strong indication that youre expecting to have sex? Which is what he was talking about. I've never had a man stop in the throws of passion to double check I really want to have intercourse. Should they?

Of course you should be checking that the person in bed with you wants to have sex! At the most basic level, you'd want to know theyre enjoying it too, surely?

So on Broadland there will be a candidate with his disgusting views, and in a part of Wales one who condones someone who scuppers a rape trial?

The Tories should get rid of them both.

Someone close to me was assaulted by a man he'd voluntarily got into bed naked with. He gave consent to cuddling naked with his boyfriend. He did not give consent to (i) sex when he was half-asleep or (ii) having a sex act performed on him that he'd previously said he hated. It's not rocket science.

I sleep naked. I don’t always want sex. Am
I supposed to wear uncomfortable pjs, a ‘demure’ nightdress, just so my husband doesn’t get their wrong idea from catching a glimpse of my naked body?

FFS how insulting, to men and women. Men aren’t senseless animals, they are perfectly capable of controlling themselves.

Some of them just choose not to.

I've never had a man stop in the throws of passion to double check I really want to have intercourse. Should they?

Your enjoyment and enthusiastic participation should be obvious and self evident.

If it is not then yes, they bloody well should be stopping to make sure you are actually enjoying it!!!

Policeman once said to me, ‘consent should be enthusiastically obvious. If your partner is not enthusiastically responding then you cannot safely assume consent. No normal caring person would want to have sex with an unenthusiastic partner. Only abusers and rapists do that.’

So good, now we all know that wearing knickers means we are safe. Great. So, next time I go out at night and someone is following me ( happened again recently) I'll just shout out " sorry, I'm wearing knickers" & he'll go " Oh ok love, sorry" & go away. Phew, that's good to know.
What a complete !

Oh, btw, my grown sons are baffled by the whole concept of sexual assault/rape etc. They said a woman could be unconcious, drunk, naked & they would just want to help/cover her, whatever. Their first thought wouldn't be to think it was an opportunity for sex! No excuse, ever.

Anyone who is reading this who has had sex knows how you know if your partner is into it. You just know. They're responding to you. They're looking at you, smiling, their body feels responsive. It's not difficult. It's not a grey area. You know when someone wants to have sex with you and whne they don't. And if anyone is saying they don't know the difference, they're better off not bothering at all.

isn't being voluntarily in bed naked with a man a fairly strong indication that youre expecting to have sex "I sleep naked every night with DH. If he wants sex he tries a snog and a grope, he gets told no or the fun is reciprocated. He's never once confused when I was up for sex or not, never once carried on without my obvious consent, never once got on with it whilst I slept or was too drunk to respond. It isn't that bloody difficult

And I've also had great sex with my knickers on