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WIBU to call the police first?

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Shesapsycho · 03/11/2019 14:28

Short version (because I need attention and assistance): NDN has basically just threatened to accuse my DH of child abuse, because she doesn’t like him. Obviously there’s no justification for this, but what the fuck and how do I handle this? Do I call them proactively? Is this blackmail? For what I’m not sure. Will SS turn up and take our child on the basis of an unsubstantiated claim?! I don’t know what the hell to think! Daren’t tell DH because I don’t want to upset him.

Backstory, we’ve lived in our house nearly 3 years. Neighbour has always been odd/ off with us regarding what she perceives as excessive noise, namely, if my husband runs in the garage and plays music, or is working in there etc (garage joins the houses). We live in a cul de sac with houses very close to each other. No direct negative contact has ever come from any other neighbour, we know most of them for polite chats and seem to get on ok as far as we can tell. Being in garage is extremely rare, he hasn’t been in there in months. Thing took a more sinister turn over summer when she called the police and council accusing him/ us of playing recordings of ‘terrorist threats’ and ‘mixing chemicals’ in the garden. If relevant, DH is mixed race, your speculation on country of origin probably correct but fairly outing. Police and council visited us and subsequently wrote the matter off as NDN being a bit loopy. Today husband back in the garage clearing out a load of stuff with garage door open and music playing; I consider myself fairly sensitive to noise but hadn’t noticed (and was in room next to garage). Bang on door, she’s asking to turn it down. Fine, I go in and do so, DH grouches but ‘whatever’. She then appears in garage door “If you needed to call the doctor because your child was sick and you couldn’t hear over noise I was making you wouldn’t be happy’” Bear in mind we’d been having a conversation without shouting at each other before she popped up, and given previous issues DH took umbrage with this and they had a spat which ended with me guiding NDN back to her door saying we would listen to volume together and go from there (I was invited in did not force myself or anything). She then proceeded to tell me how she and all the neighbours were concerned about me and my child (DD 2), that she ‘knows he’s a psycho’, that she hears recordings talking about child abuse when I’m at work (when I’m at work so is he!), that is wasn’t her that had called the police but another concerned neighbour etc etc. I was fuming by the point and suggested she go and buy something to record what she was hearing and call the police if she genuinely had concerns, but obviously I’m incredibly upset. I hate confrontation, I’ve never had neighbour issues before, I genuinely think we are reasonable normal people. Man from the council did indicate he would get mental health services involved when he visited but no idea if this happened.

Sorry if I’ve missed vital details- ask away.

Trying not to cry.

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Adversecamber22 · 03/11/2019 15:15

She sounds unbalanced and her threats are terrible but music is unfair played like that. I didn’t buy a house as the garage was attached to a kitchen wall, the house was described as detached. No carpet means the sound would be loud.

MidnightMystery · 03/11/2019 15:21

She sounds somewhat delusional.

You can report her for harassment and even call social services to inform them you think she needs some help as her behaviour is concerning.

I wouldn't call the police and say you are being accused of abuse though however if she does report the accusation then they will investigate and all will be put to bed on the matter.

Honeybee85 · 03/11/2019 15:21

She sounds unhinged. If that were my neighbour and she was trying to involve my innocent DC in her batshit crazy accusations and basically threaten him by involving SS (I heard SS involvement can be traumatizing for children in case of innocent parents) she would have a massive problem with this mamabear.
I would do everything legally possible to make her life so difficult that she would think twice about threatening my family. And I would start by making a formal complaint about her for harassment to the police. And complain to the council. And hire a lawyer to send her a nice formal letter to let her know that civil action is also an option if she keeps harassing you and falsely accuses you.
Her mental issues are not your problem and you have every right to defend yourself against her sick actions.

PositiveVibez · 03/11/2019 15:26

She is racist and targeting your husband. Accusing him of lots of false allegations.

Go to the police.

Leaspr · 03/11/2019 15:28

Does she have a child? I’m confused!? She was basically saying that she needed to call the doctor about her sick child and couldn’t hear over the music? But you say she’s in her 60’s? So unlikely (although not impossible) that this is the case. She’s making up a completely irrelevant situation? Which is really weird. Not to mention all the other things she’s claimed about your DH.
I’d be inclined to contact the local police station. She’s only going to get worse if this isn’t nipped in the bud.

diddl · 03/11/2019 15:29

She sounds ill.

"If you needed to call the doctor because your child was sick and you couldn’t hear over noise I was making you wouldn’t be happy"

How did that turn into a "spat"?

Croquembou · 03/11/2019 15:30

But once in a rare while, in daylight hours, would you think it unreasonable to listen to the radio in the garden etc while working?

No, of course it isn't. And people who think it is always use needlessly emotive language like 'inflicted'.

HughGrantsHair · 03/11/2019 15:31

Definitely ring 101 and state on the call that you feel harassed.

We had the same with a neighbour, shouting unwarranted abuse and making false allegations. Police warned them to leave us alone and they didn't. Rang straight back and the police came out and issued them with a harassment notice. They aren't allowed to speak to us now.

Good luck. Dealing with crazy neighbours is emotionally draining

saraclara · 03/11/2019 15:41

Obviously she's nuts, but all the same, why doesn't he wear earbuds?
It's more considerate, and why fire her up unnecessarily? Is he running on a treadmill in the attached garage? I imagine that the thunk thunk of that could be really annoying.

Meanwhile, yes, ask your local police (preferably whoever spoke to you last time) for advice. If nothing else, her comments (which are entirely unreasonable and for which the noise is no excuse) need to be noted in case needed at some point in the future.
But don't let your husband lose it with her. That won't help if the police do end up getting involved. The two of you need to be squeaky clean.

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 03/11/2019 15:48

OP please dont cry...you are doing nothing wrong,your husband is doing nothing wrong either,I would call the police on 101 and explain your situation and ask them if a community officer could call to see you when they can.Keep a log of all incidents and speak with them each and every time.If it is a LA property also do the same as above.Hold your head up carry on as you normally would and try not to engage,If you do have to engage say a firm not now we are busy and adopt a stern tone.

egontoste · 03/11/2019 15:49

I agree with others who say you need to report this to the police as harassment, possibly racially aggravated.

00Sassy · 03/11/2019 16:02

She is a racist cow, that’s for sure! Angry

Shesapsycho · 03/11/2019 16:03

Update- just spoke to DH and he has beaten me to it! Apparently he felt harassed enough by being called psychotic to his face to report online. I probably will follow this with a separate report as have the further info about the more serious accusations.
Also he warned me part of the reason he’s been clearing out the garage is because he wants to start running again (!) but confirmed he won’t be playing any music to be on the safe side (ear buds/ headphones don’t work for him). Runs are short bursts of 20-30 mins, maybe once a week in daylight hours at his peak.

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Honeybee85 · 03/11/2019 16:09

Your DH did well OP.
Even if it just serves as proof that she has been harassing you in case of future events (lets hope they wont take place but I wouldn’t bet on it).

I think it might also help to write down what happened every time she is acting out towards you/your family again. It will help you remember the details about if you decide to report later and creates a timeline.

Apolloanddaphne · 03/11/2019 16:34

I can assure you SW would not swoop in and remove a child on unfounded accusations of hearing 'recordings talking about child abuse' whatever that means. They need good evidence that a child is actually being abused first.

I am wondering if your neighbour is maybe starting to suffer from dementia. People with a particular type of dementia (Lewy body) can have auditory hallucinations. Possible?

Clangus00 · 03/11/2019 16:45

I feel really sorry for both you & your husband. I hope you get this sorted soon.

Ritascornershop · 03/11/2019 16:51

Good lord, she sounds really unhinged. Wrote down dates and details of all interactions, let the police know about the harassment.

Stressedbutbless3d · 03/11/2019 17:30

Wow what a horrible woman, I agree there's probably a racist undertone to her harassment of your family.

I hope the police pick up on this and act accordingly. You shouldn't have to put up with this.

Another one echoing the PP's who say you have nothing to worry about where SS are concerned. They are used to receiving malicious reports and can spot them a mile off.

LilyJade · 03/11/2019 18:24

Hmmm she does sound very paranoid & quite delusional.

I recognise the signs because I have that kind of illness myself, luckily I have a diagnosis & I'm on meds but prior to that I had a delusion that involved a 'nuisance neighbour'.
(He was sexually harassing me & I became convinced that he would try to kill me as I had rejected him. I even went as far as sticking newspaper to my windows so he couldn't see in. He was actually just a harmless old drunk but to me he felt very threatening. He moved out but my illness got worse unfortunately).
Your neighbour is obviously quite racist too though. And although a bit noisy your husband has not harassed or threatened her.

He's done the right thing by reporting to the police. Keep a record of any further issues.

TriciaH87 · 03/11/2019 20:21

I would contact police and tell them the history say you are concerned for your neighbours mental health more than anything. Call the non emergency line and request they look into if she's getting the support she requires. I would mention what she's saying too because potentially if she carries on it could be considered a racial hate crime if she's victimising your husband like this. Talk to the neighbour on the otherside of her to see if they have had any issues.

Shesapsycho · 04/11/2019 11:27

Thanks all. I’ve now made my statement (fairly emotional!) to 101 who were brilliant. Felt good to get it off my chest.
@LilyJade thanks for sharing your experience; I’ve been trying to see it from her perspective and this helps. Hope things are better for you now.

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slipperywhensparticus · 04/11/2019 11:34

Just to say social services wont swoop in and remove your child if there is a disclosure made by a child about him they expect you to ask him to leave the home while they investigate which of course wont happen I'm just saying

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