For how long is Sajid Javid going to claim he’s the humble working class son of a bus driver to protect him from criticism?

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www.theguardian.com/film/2019/oct/31/hugh-grant-defends-himself-after-being-called-incredibly-rude-by-sajid-javid

Hugh Grant is utterly obnoxious and odious IMO. He totally deserves to be called out for this behaviour. Sarah Vine has tweeted that Hugh did the same thing to her at the house of a mutual acquaintance and seemed to actively enjoy it. Horrible man.

Make no mistake, this has been leaked to align the "left" with rotten celebs like Hugh Grant.
I've no time at all for this particular politician or this actor but the story is political game playing and nothing else, very boring.

Wouldn't he be a hypocrite if he did though?

Damned if he does and damned if doesn't

I think it's a bit rich to call him odious and then mention Sarah Vine of all people. She and her husband define the word surely?

Good on Hugh Grant. I don't have a particular opinion of him, but will cheer on anyone who stands up to "bullies playing the victim card" like Javid.

Sarah Vine/Sajid Javid or Hugh Grant...hmmm....well I think I’ll take the one who isn’t a vindictive horror or part of dismantling the welfare state.

Sadiq Khan seems in prize position for this particular award....hiding behind ones upbringing

God, I would refuse to shake Sarah Vine's hand. And Javid's too. In fact I would quite like to meet them both so that I would have the pleasure of doing so! Now I think about it there's a massive long list of people's hands I would like not to shake.

Happy to shake the hand of a man who uses the services of a prostitute whilst in a long term relationship over Sarah Vine? Hmmm interesting moral stance there. Its clear why he hates the press - he has sooo much to hide. Absolute hypocrite.

I think he hates the press because they hacked his phone. Which isn't unreasonable.

There are few Home Secretaries hands I would shake out of anything other than perfunctory politeness.

Roy Jenkins immediately springs to mind. And Jack Straw.

Beyond that ... (thinks very hard). No, not really.

No doubt that is part of the reason why he hates the press. But it is interesting that the most vociferous complainers are him and Steve Coogan - both of whom have extremely shady pasts. Lots and lots of celebrities were hacked (not defending this at all) but Hugh has taken it to an incredible level.

The Daily Mail pulled an absolute number on Steve Coogan in an extremely morally bankrupt way. He had my utmost sympathy at the Leveson

Hugh Grant's personal life may be mired in but it's really none of my business

Sarah Vine's husband is an elected official and she exploits this to the fullest, she would sell her Granny if the Daily Mail paid her to write a think piece on how she did it.

I think it is our business, when HG sets himself up as the voice of moral outrage on behalf of victims of the press when he has been less than virtuous in his personal life. Did you see the footage where his wife called an Italian woman filming rubbish a stupid c**t whilst he was with her? SC is very talented and comes across as more humble, I am merely citing the connecting motivating factors in their quest to curtail the press.

Is he his wife's keeper?

Nope but I often judge people by the company they keep, and he spoke to the woman filming in a highly demeaning and horrible tone. Personally I think the story is the wrong way round. I would refuse to shake HG's hand, knowing what we do about him.

Interesting that anyone else who had a known history of a dalliance with a prostitute whilst in a long term relationship would be demonised on Mumsnet. But chuck in Hugh Grant and a Conservative politician and the wife of a Conservative politician, all bets are off seemingly....

Nope but I often judge people by the company they keep

That applies both ways to Michael Gove and Sarah Vine, then ...

(to paraphrase Abraham Lincoln, how merciful it was of God they married each other to make only two miserable people not four ...)

Honestly I would rather be married to Michael Gove than Hugh Grant! We could talk about failing our driving tests together...

I think the Abraham Lincoln quote could easily be applied to Hugh Grant and his charming wife.

No idea why we are being asked to choose between Hugh Grant and Michael Gove @siousieSoo. Can't they both be bloody awful? Michael Gove is especially unpleasant in my view as he is a liar and a hypocrite who has contributed to damaging the UK in the most appalling way by putting his personal ambition before any concern for the country at large. Hugh Grant may or may not have some dodgy personal morals. I don't really care. He is not a politician and his capacity for widespread harm is not the same as Grant's. But given that Gove has admitted to taking cocaine, doesn't that put him in a similar category of dodgy morals anyway, if you are going to go down that route, given that like any other drug users, those in the middle-classes leave a trail of destruction in their wake?

So one man can’t keep his dick in his pants & the other is happy to go along with policies that leave kids & disabled people starving. I know which one I judge more harshly & it’s not Hugh Grant

I think the people criticising Hugh Grant are slightly missing the point. Whatever your opinion of him (I can't say I feel particularly strongly either way) he didn't refuse to shake Sajid Javid's hand because he is too posh to shake the hand of such a working class lout. And Sajid Javid knows this. Maybe Hugh Grant's actual reasons were stupid, but if so then SJ can criticise them, rather than pretend he thinks it was his working class background that caused the issue.

It's my observation that the self-made Tories are somehow worse for hating everyone else than the born-rich ones.

Javid was also seen recently playing the "I'm Asian" card with the Coronation Street/Downing Street comment. It was a nice little image for the press to report on, but he's not Asian, he's from Rochdale. British kids of British parents and Asian grandparents will not thank him for muddying those waters for them....

Didn't ask anyone to choose @inexcessive, I simply stated my preference on the basis that Sarah Vine said that Hugh Grant was equally horrible to her. Not defending Michael Gove either - my response was in mention to @DGRossetti's comment about the marriage of Sarah Vine and Michael Gove. I would rather be married to a Conservative politician than somebody who sees fit to visit a prostitute. Hugh's ridiculous stance on not shaking his hand is as pompous and odious as it comes. If you are in public life you just get on with niceties. There is something superior about a person who thinks they are above shaking somebody's hand in that context. The same stance could be applied to Mr Grant's morals. So the comparison with Michael Gove carries no water - he is not refusing to shake somebody's hand on the basis of his own peculiarities unlike HG.

If you are in public life you just get on with niceties.

Here's a former Daily Mail proprietor being nice.