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AIBU or will younger person's vote not be fairly represented in this GE

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midsummabreak · 30/10/2019 19:51

Do you feel this GE vote will fairly represent younger people, 20-24 since many do not vote?

For example, only 59% of 20-24 year olds voted last election, According to this article

www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-politics-49826655

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AllPowerfulLizardPerson · 30/10/2019 19:55

It will be as fair as any other.

Voting is not compulsory in UK. There is no additional barrier to that age group voting (indeed those who are students are going to be deluged with info on how, and which constituency to choose if eligible in two)

If they still choose not to vote, then that is their prerogative. It's not about fairness - especially as I think it would be really quite hard not to notice an election is being called.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 30/10/2019 19:56

I see no issue with this- it’s every adults choice whether to vote or not.

feellikeanalien · 30/10/2019 19:58

There is a simple solution. They go to the polling station and vote!Grin

CendrillonSings · 30/10/2019 19:59

Er, if you don’t vote you don’t get to claim you weren’t represented. What a ridiculous argument!

PastTheGin · 30/10/2019 20:00

YABU

Anotherlongdrive · 30/10/2019 20:00

It's up to those people who fall I to that age group. If they feel they want their views representing, they do what other people (of any age) do. Which is go vote.

wonderstuff · 30/10/2019 20:01

It's never fair. FPTP isn't good at representing a range of views. But there's no perfect democracy and I think the last 3 years has highlighted how differently people view the nature of democracy and also how our democratic system has changed.

midsummabreak · 30/10/2019 20:51

I know I am biased as I am an Australian citizen, ( with UK rellies) but I wonder if compulsory voting would represent all and therefore show a result with less bias towards certain aectors of the public?
I do understand that individual liberty is highly valued and therefore people need to respect the right of others not to vote , but for example, this results in surprise outcomes from polling such as causes Trump being voted in.

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midsummabreak · 30/10/2019 20:54

Agree wonderstuff there is no foolproof democracy since we all distrust our politians, with good reason, however I feel confident in our voting and political system.

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Topseyt · 30/10/2019 21:03

The moral here is that if you want to be represented then make sure you get off your arse and vote.

I think everyone has a moral duty to vote, although there are those who don't bother.

I am not in favour of compulsory voting. Whilst I do think that everyone who is eligible should vote, I do realise that they also have the democratic right to abstain if they wish.

Fairenuff · 30/10/2019 21:20

If young people can't be arsed to vote then why should anyone else care if they are under-represented. If they want to be treated like adults then they need to step up and behave like adults.

bridgetreilly · 30/10/2019 21:31

If people don't care enough to vote, why should their views be taken into consideration? It's really not that hard to register and turn up, or get a postal vote.

I strongly object to compulsory voting in general, and particularly any system which does not even allow for abstention as an option. Frequently there are no candidates or parties I feel I can support, and I do not want to use my vote for a least worst option. Low turnout sends a very important signal to politicians that they are completely failing to represent the population at all.

LemonPrism · 30/10/2019 21:45

I'm 24, all of my friends vote. The ones who don't made their idiotic choice. Those who vote will likely be politically informed or interested, those who don't would probably just vote from a 'feeling' so I don't much care for their opinion or intellect anyway.

AnalUnicorn · 30/10/2019 21:55

It’s everyone’s democratic right to not vote if they so choose. However those who exercise that right have no right to complain about the result.

scaryteacher · 30/10/2019 22:00

I have voted ever since I was able to, at 18, and that was back in 1984...so there is no excuse if people choose not to vote.

We've just moved back to the UK, and so the three of us (including 24 yo ds) have all re registered on the local register of electors as opposed to the one for overseas voters.

The 20-24 age group will be fairly represented either by them turning out to vote, or choosing not to register, or not to use their vote.

HermioneWeasley · 30/10/2019 22:03

Er, is there some barrier to them voting?

Why would it be “unfair”?

SilverySurfer · 30/10/2019 22:04

This is a bit ridiculous when all they have to do is get off their arse and vote. If they don't then their view is irrelevant and they don't deserve to be fairly represented.

Fifthtimelucky · 30/10/2019 22:29

I know the you gov survey shows that the highest turnout is from the 75+ age group, but I think there will probably also be a lot of older people who don't vote and who may not represented in the survey because they live in care homes etc. Since the last election, my 94 year old mother in law has moved into a care home. I asked my husband if he had ensured that she was still on the electoral roll.

He said he had discussed it with her and she had decided not to vote.
I imagine there are many older people in a similar position, or who won't be voting because of eg dementia.

I agree with others. There is no excuse for young people not to vote. I first voted in 1979, a couple of months after my 18th birthday, and have never missed an election since.

TheSandgroper · 31/10/2019 00:15

In Australia it’s compulsory to vote and this is how it turns out.

aec.gov.au/Elections/Federal_Elections/2019/files/19-1201-fe19-fastfacts-A3-poster.pdf

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