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Original poster

To register to vote in a marginal constituency and not where I live?

28 replies

ludlowstreet · 30/10/2019 19:07

I live in a very safe constituency. I also have a house I rent out in a very marginal constituency, Lib Dem/Tory. Would I be unreasonable to register to vote in the other house? The tenants are an EU couple, very worried about Brexit and , of course, unable to vote. I would be voting Lib Dem.

OP posts:
InfiniteSheldon · 30/10/2019 19:07

Shameful

Original poster
ludlowstreet · 30/10/2019 19:07

Have name changed btw.

OP posts:
RolytheRhino · 30/10/2019 19:08

Is that legal?

DarklyDreamingDexter · 30/10/2019 19:10

Don’t you have to vote where you are on the electoral roll? What you are talking about is electoral fraud.

BurpingFrog · 30/10/2019 19:12

This can be perfectly above board and legal when a property is a second home (similar concept to the rule applied to students) but I suspect it wouldn’t count as a “second home” if you don’t stay there yourself. However, check with the local council as I believe it varies.

Crunchymum · 30/10/2019 19:13

I would.

Law and ethics seem like alien concepts to our politicians so why should we give a shit?

Hingeandbracket · 30/10/2019 19:13

Why not go down to the bookies and put a bet on a Lib Dem government while you’re at it - the odds are about 99-1 at the moment

Original poster
ludlowstreet · 30/10/2019 19:13

Is that legal?
I think so. My tenants are amongst the most badly affected people in the country by the mess we're in and have no voice. I think they'd appreciate me voting with them (and the whole country) in mind.

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RolytheRhino · 30/10/2019 19:16

Looks like it goes against the rules, OP:

'Convenience, forwarding or ‘care of’ addresses
We hear of cases where people register at, say, their parental home (although they do not live there) because they move address quite frequently. This is wrong; people should register where they actually live.'

www.lbhf.gov.uk/councillors-and-democracy/elections/register-vote/second-homes-and-student-homes

Original poster
ludlowstreet · 30/10/2019 19:17

@InfiniteSheldon
Why is it shameful?

I think what is shameful is to vote for something that threatens an international peace treaty personally.

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DarklyDreamingDexter · 30/10/2019 19:18

Your principals go out the window to get what you want then? The ends justify the means? Hmm

DarklyDreamingDexter · 30/10/2019 19:18

Principles even.

MrsMaiselsMuff · 30/10/2019 19:19

You must vote where you are resident.

Your motivations are good, but are not justification for committing fraud.

Original poster
ludlowstreet · 30/10/2019 19:22

RolytheRhino
Thanks. Seems so unfair that my tenants have no voice in this.

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fortunatelynot · 30/10/2019 19:22

You have to prove you are at the second home with ‘a considerable degree of permanency’.

Who is on the electoral roll at your rented house?

Kpo58 · 30/10/2019 19:22

I understand where you are coming from. My vote is pretty much worthless as I too am in a safe seat.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 30/10/2019 19:23

You to be resident at least some of the time with a reasonable degree of permanence
www.lbhf.gov.uk/councillors-and-democracy/elections/register-vote/second-homes-and-student-homes

You don’t meet that criteria as you have no right of residence if you have rented out the property on an AST

Chloemol · 30/10/2019 19:35

You are committing fraud by doing this, shame on you

Chloemol · 30/10/2019 19:38

Why is it unfair your tenants have no voice? If you moved to another country you would have no voice in their elections. Surely if they become British citizens then they would get a say, but as obviously they don’t want to as they have not yet, then why should they get to vote in how this country is run?

janj2301 · 30/10/2019 19:46

My daughter is her dad's carer and spend half her time her and half at her home. She is registered to vote at both addresses but knows she can only vote in one. I used to work getting electoral registration forms completed. Many people register at more than one address for many reasons

NegroniOnIce · 30/10/2019 19:46

You are committing fraud by doing this, shame on you

Ridiculous. Johnson and his cronies are committing the biggest fraud in history on ALL of us. This pales in comparison.
None of this is about anything except proposed EU rules on tax avoidance. The only beneficiaries will be the (already) millionaires. Rees-Mogg. Johnson. Farage. Dyson. Martin. The list is endless.
That's what I'd call actual fraud.

This is why

RolytheRhino · 31/10/2019 18:55

Johnson and his cronies are committing the biggest fraud in history on ALL of us. This pales in comparison

Yes, but 'He started it!' isn't much of a defence in law AFAIK.

Saddler · 31/10/2019 18:57

Pathetic

PulpPixie · 31/10/2019 19:01

Corbyn wanted the 9th so university students could vote twice. Typical of the left.

Amanduh · 31/10/2019 19:03

Yabvvvu. It is illegal.
What a load of ‘well Boris is a fraud’ is an absolutely fucking ridiculous defence.
Use that in a murder trial, yeah it’s the same 🙄