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To find myself quite envious of people in marginal seats?

95 replies

drivinmecrazy · 30/10/2019 11:53

I'm in a constituency with a huge Conservative majority. To my mind our MP is a prize twat (James Cleverly) and was only parachuted into our constituency because it was so safe and he's nothing more than a slimy career politician.
Some how we have always been a Conservative safe seat apart from a very short spell under a Labour MP.
I don't want to vote Conservative for many reasons but primarily Brexit (I have in the distant past been an historical Tory voter but much has changed over the past ten years).
So to my point. If you are lucky enough to live in an area where your vote might actually make a difference then you must feel more empowered than me in a safe seat when any vote against the Tories is nothing but an insignificant protest vote, no better than non voting or spoilt ballot.
I almost feel disenfranchised

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SoyDora · 30/10/2019 12:51

YANBU. We are also a safe Tory seat with an absolute tosser of an MP. He’s also a very vocal Brexiteer and id say there’s no chance of him losing his seat.
It’s depressing.

Janus · 30/10/2019 12:53

I wish I did too! Live in full on Tory seat going on decades, I almost don’t think it’s worth voting but out I go each time knowing my vote is a total waste.

Janus · 30/10/2019 12:54

My MP is also useless and was known as the MP who fell asleep in the middle of a sitting and wants a no deal brexit, thoroughly depressing twat.

Didiusfalco · 30/10/2019 12:57

I’m in a constituency that was targeted by the Torres at the last election, voted leave, but has a remain supporting labour MP, so I imagine it will be on the Tory hit list again.

weymouthswanderingmermaid · 30/10/2019 13:13

@BloodyCats how has a labour MP destroyed your area? Just curious.

I'm in a safe seat, which I'm happy about as it's my chosen party. However the area neighbouring ours has one of the most objectionable hard Brexiteering austerity promoting Tory Mp's in the HOC. I'm am a little hopeful that he will get turfed out as the demographic of that area is changing. So that's the one I'll be watching with baited breath.

Fatshedra · 30/10/2019 13:25

I'm in a marginal. Will be gutted if the other side get in after the candidate's (when he was the MP previously) rude dismissal of my letter when I wrote about concerns over transgender women competing against women in women's sport.

MirandaWest · 30/10/2019 13:28

Was just looking at my constituency and found something saying that Green has said they won’t stand if labour and Lib Dem put up one candidate between them. So maybe will be more interesting.

EssentialHummus · 30/10/2019 13:33

Safe Labour seat here. I love our MP but can’t vote for Corbyn - what am I supposed to do?

Yours,
Confused Jew in Lewisham

billybagpuss · 30/10/2019 13:37

I'm in a very privileged position as our local MP is brilliant for the district and even though my party vote will most probably lose, I don't care and if he ran as independent I think he would get an unprecedented majority of the votes.

SpinsterOfArts · 30/10/2019 13:39

YANBU. I'm in an extremely safe Labour seat. I feel very much that my vote doesn't matter at all and wish we had a different system.

The only upside is that I can spoil my ballot or vote for a fringe party without worrying about unforeseen consequences. If I lived in a marginal constituency I'd likely feel that I had to vote for whichever of the two most popular parties I disliked the least.

Averyyounggrandmaofsix · 30/10/2019 13:41

The referendum was the only time my vote counted, it really isn't worth going to vote here with the old true blues and the look at me I've made it so must vote Tory brigade

DreamingofSunshine · 30/10/2019 13:43

@EssentialHummus another confused Jew here, but north of the river. I have no idea what to do.

MrsMaiselsMuff · 30/10/2019 13:44

If you want to go out campaigning, you'll always be welcome in marginal seats! My geography is terrible so I don't know what your neighbouring constituencies are, but get in touch with the Labour/ LibDem/ whoever is most likely to beat the Tories groups and ask when how you can help.

If you're not too far, get to Uxbridge. The Labour candidate there stands a very good chance of winning, just imagine how good it would feel to know you'd helped to boot out Boris!

Figmentofmyimagination · 30/10/2019 13:45

I'm in a marginal and in 2017 was delighted when the Tory Brexiteer incumbent was thrown out on his ear. Slightly less delighted that the Labour replacement also had a track record of wanting to leave the EU but at least he wasn't part of the government that brought us this crazy referendum.

Voted tactically as a protest vote to get rid of Tory incumbent to punish him but then had to put up with Leadsom et al harping on for months about how 85% of the electorate voted for parties that supported leaving the EU....

Experience tells us that whatever the outcome of this election, it will be spun as an endorsement of leaving on BJ terms come what may. I would guess that most normal Conservative voters are voting negatively through gritted teeth for Johnson, out of fear of Corbyn, rather than because they actually want him as our PM.

Anyway looking forward to much excitement and celebrity visits by fawning politicians to our rather sad and forgotten town centre over the next few weeks.

MrsMaiselsMuff · 30/10/2019 13:46

@EssentialHummus Labour is a party of nearly half a million members. You're voting for the party, not one person.

FarAwaySheep · 30/10/2019 13:47

YANBU, OP.

We're in exactly the same position and really pissed off.

Obvs we will vote anyway, but our only chance of being heard is if Tory Flu suddenly strikes the other 90% of the population and keeps them away from the polling stations.

SquirmOfEels · 30/10/2019 13:48

Safe seats only stop being safe when those who want someone different actually vote that way. And it might take a while before any change is perceptible, but it can come. It definitely won't though, if people don't vote in ways that reduce the majority.

I live in a 'target' constituency. It hasn't made much difference AFAIK, in that I've never met a canvasser. Do they even still exist? (in key/target marginal constituencies, that is).

We do get a lot of bumf through the door, but that tends to go straight into the recycling.

Crunchymum · 30/10/2019 13:48

Very safe labour seat here, not sure how I am going to vote (100% wont be Conservative though!)

GaraMedouar · 30/10/2019 13:49

I’m in a marginal seat Smile - I would have preferred a 2nd referendum rather than forcing people to pick a party which may not have the right Brexit side. I was going to vote Lib Dem but think that’d be a wasted vote . So not sure at the moment.

SoyDora · 30/10/2019 13:51

our only chance of being heard is if Tory Flu suddenly strikes the other 90% of the population and keeps them away from the polling stations

Same here Sad

Peccary · 30/10/2019 13:53

Ours is a swing seat, a geographically large area with a combination of mill towns, farming areas and well off towns. Current (2017 win from old school Conservative) Labour incumbent is popular but it could go either way. Both parties were already leafletting at the station this morning

Londonmummy66 · 30/10/2019 13:57

I'm in a safe seat. I tend to vote Green, not because it will change the vote in any way but I feel that if they were to start getting a reasonable number of "protest" votes it might move green issues up the political agenda. I realise that is probably just wishful thinking but feels a little better than thinking my vote is irrelevant.

Alaimo · 30/10/2019 14:02

My constituency used to be Labour but has had an SNP MP for the last few years. Lib Dems used to do well here, until they entered into a coalition government with the Tories. The Conservatives gained a reasonable amount of ground here in 2017, but I'm not sure they'll sustain that now that Ruth Davidson is no longer the Scottish Conservatives leader. It'll be interesting to see if the Lib Dems can redeem themselves, but I think it will be difficult for them to attract the anti-Brexit vote when there is an incumbent SNP MP.

I would be happy enough with either a Lib Dem, Labour or SNP MP, and as long as they don't split the vote too much one of them should be able to win.

FaFoutis · 30/10/2019 14:03

YANBU
It would be difficult to be more of a wet-lipped wanker than my MP. But all the wealthy old people will vote him in again, despite him never showing his face in his constituency.
My vote means nothing.

Alanna1 · 30/10/2019 14:03

I’m in a similar position but I think this election might be quite different.

I’m in what is usually considered a very, very safe Labour seat.... and I’m a long term supporter and donor to Labour.... But I have had enough of the Labour party and its wall-sitting, disingenuous position on Brexit, and I just can’t trust Jeremy Corbyn over the economy or defence.... nor do I trust Boris Johnson and the group around him..... So I am, I think, going to vote Lib Dem for the first time ever (other than in the recent Euro elections).

In the highly unlikely event that divides the electorate enough that the Conservatives get in in my constituency, it will only be till the next election or indeed till a recall petition was successful and I think not an entirely wasted vote - will still help the Lib Dems indicate what lots of people want. (Wish they had a different leader though too! - but best of the options).... But will also wait to see what tactical voting suggests.

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