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To offer less on a property for these reasons

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KobeLondon · 28/10/2019 20:32

  • Single glazed (it’s 2019!)
  • Damp (vendor had damp survey and only paid for online).
  • Damp upstairs and would need an air vent installing
  • Needs new bathroom
  • Washing machine and dryer are currently located in cupboard outside Confused
  • Kitchen needs modernising to include room for washing machine
  • Need re-plastering die to damp
OP posts:
Seeingadistance · 28/10/2019 22:59

I wouldn’t expect to see damp mentioned in a property description, tbh.

Single glazing can sometimes be assumed, eg, if description states partial double glazing.

Nat6999 · 28/10/2019 23:05

It depends on how much the difference in price is between an identical house with everything done & the house you are looking at. If the renovations would cost say £30k & the difference in price is £30k, then it is a fair price, but if the difference is only £10k then you have more scope for making a lower offer. I would get a rough estimate for how much you think it would cost to bring the house up to the standard you want it to be & then work out an offer price, make sure you include everything, wiring, plumbing, windows, kitchen & bathroom in your estimate. At the end of the day mortgage providers will only base the figure they will lend on what they think the property is worth now & what they think it will be worth when fully renovated.

dontcallmeduck · 28/10/2019 23:11

Sorry missed the wooden cupboard in your OP and thought you might have meant an outdoor building cupboard.

A property description and photos will NEVER highlight damp and any problems such as single glazing as they are trying to sell it after getting people through the door to look at it.

I also wasn’t having a go about the finances, you said you couldn’t afford the work and damp and double glazing will be costly. We paid £7k for double glazing with no other issues in one of the cheapest parts of the company. Damp will cost a lot more.

Moondancer73 · 28/10/2019 23:19

You're not a first time buyer and yet you have no idea how much windows cost? And you don't know if it's reasonable to offer less on a property because it has damp, is single glazed etc. It sounds like you're a total novice to me. Have you done any research on other similar properties in the area because if not then that's where I'd start, that way you have an idea of true value and what to offer.

mamandematribu · 29/10/2019 00:02

You can certainly offer less...., Just don't expect it to actually be accepted Halloween Grin

missyB1 · 29/10/2019 07:33

If you are serious about this house then you need to get a (reputable) builder to go and view it with you. They can have a look at the issues and give you a rough quote which will help you decide how much to offer. Or you can always make an offer now then lower it after a full structural survey.
But do make sure you get a full structural survey whatever you decide to do. You don’t want any nasty surprises in this house.

wondering7777 · 29/10/2019 07:37

Single glazed (it’s 2019!)

My old house is single glazed because it has all the original windows. It was a massive plus point for me when buying!

midnightmisssuki · 29/10/2019 07:37

You don’t sound like you like the house. 🤷🏻‍♀️

LizziesTwin · 29/10/2019 07:45

It takes a long time to payback the initial cost of double glazing. Years and years. If the windows aren’t rotten you can have secondary glazing to reduce heat loss.

Countryescape · 29/10/2019 07:46

Well it depends. It is very annoying when people say there is x,y,z issues so blah blah blah. Unless the house is brand new it will always have issues. You don’t need to buy the house and the vendors don’t have to sell to a person who thinks it should be perfect.

FunOnTheBeach20 · 29/10/2019 07:49

I think it’s very annoying people just readily accept the price a house is on the market for! Absolutely put an offer in, it isn’t a loaf of bread. Have brought several properties in the last ten years and never paid the asking price. Sounds insane!

DH I and lived in a Victorian house with original windows. Bloody freezing. We replaced them and now take pity on anyone when we see they have single glazing.

missyB1 · 29/10/2019 07:54

No the vendors don’t have to accept a lower offer but they may need to accept their house isn’t going to sell for the asking price. If a house needs expensive work doing to it the asking price should reflect that, if it doesn’t the vendors will get substantially lower offers. If they choose not to accept a lower offer then they aren’t serious about selling.
It all comes down to how keen they are to sell.

hopeishere · 29/10/2019 07:54

Agree it doesn't need a new bathroom you just don't like that one.

LIZS · 29/10/2019 07:59

It sounds like you don't really like the house. It is not what is visible in pictures that matters but what you saw on viewing. It may be priced with these works in mind, If it has more issues than you are happy to deal with, walk away. Is it in a Conservation Area which may restrict window changes for example?

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 29/10/2019 08:05

I've lived with damp. Msde me very unwell.

I wouldn't touch that house with a 20ft pole.

Find sonewhere else.

nononever · 29/10/2019 08:11

Wet rot? No way would I even consider this property. It will cost you a fortune to renovate it.

Silentlysinking101 · 29/10/2019 09:10

The bathroom is liveable, the wet rot and concerns about the floor... Run a bloody mile now!

That is a money pit! You will be looking at around 20-30k to have that put right, if it is present in one cpr er then the whole floor in that room will need ripping up, potentially the joists need replacing, the whole house will need treating and allowed to dry out before the floor can be put back down. If it's not done properly you will struggle to get insurance on it.

Assuming you haven't exchanged contracts then walk away now.

DawnOfTheDeadleg · 29/10/2019 09:29

The way you describe it I wouldn't make any offer on it. Unless it was a total steal.

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