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AIBU?

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CF or an I just being mean?

31 replies

anotheroneaboutamil · 28/10/2019 11:50

Try and keep this as short as possible as It could go on forever.

I have an ok relationship with MIL. She is a bit of a control freak and grudges that we have never given her free rein with our DC. We definitely have different outlooks on life and we passively aggressively clash all the time.

We live in a different country now (did live a lot closer up until a few years back) and for this reason don’t see them that often. I do feel sad that all miss out on the nice times we had before move, especially for our DC as they love and miss them lots.

Dear sil also has 3 DC. Completely different relationship with her parents and DC with their grandparents. SIL has relied on them heavily for childcare, emotional support and they now all live spitting distance of each other.

I wouldn’t say in-laws particularly favour or love one set of grandchildren any more than the other but obviously with SIL’s kids being in mil’s day to day life (school/club runs, hospital appointments, school plays, dance shows etc, meal times) they dominate the conversation a lot when we call or when they visit and if can become really tedious. I really try to bite my tongue but I feel for my DC when they haven’t seen them in 6 months of phone weekly to give them their news that that she always brings it back to SIL’s kids. Again it’s never done in a mean or snide way and I do think part of it is she doesn’t want both sets of grandchildren to lose their bond (DH, BIL and SIL were very close to their cousins growing up) but she does seem to consider their news as hers and my 3 very quickly loses interest as they try and tell her about their ballet exam and she drifts onto a story and SIL getting into a discussion with DN’s brownie teacher!

I possibly also feel the difference of treatment of DGC due to me being the DIL opposed to the DD and SIL is definitely the favourite of the siblings with them doing everything for her from FIL getting up every winter morning and de-icing the car to them cleaning for her when she is at work and offering to have her DC so she can do things like food shops and and DIY jobs. DH always reminds me that we never wanted that level of involvement from them and the trade of for that would be awful (judgment, interfering comments, not following our parenting methods) and he’s right but sometimes it’s sticks in my teeth a little.

MIL has wanted to bring SIL’s kids to visit for a long time, different term dates and our lack of interest have held them at bay up until now but unfortunately our pink passes seemed have ran out and she has booked a week in the spring.

We love having the in-laws and are always very welcoming, equally we would love to have SIL and her kids (who have been invited many times) but the thought of them all visiting at the same time is already raising my blood pressure. DSIL (who is married) is the only person that has not visited since we moved and it’s grates that she is relying IL’s to bring and help the kids and also that (admittedly pettily) my DC really look forward to their time with GP’s and for all the above feel they are going to miss out a bit.

(Not sure if we needed that back story but it’s felt like therapy writing it down!!)

Speaking to MIL last night and she mentions that SIL kids (particularly eldest niece) are very excited to visit and that she had been there when they booked trains and cottage. She then drops in of course she won’t be staying with us as she has already said she will be staying with you and DC for the week while we are here and she is so looking forward to it.

I’m not sure why it has riled me so much, We had every intention of asking if the DC wanted to have a sleepover when they’re here, my DC would love it too but it’s also going to be our week holiday which we have both taken of, we already have 3 DC of our own as well as livestock that take a bit of work morning and night not to mention we haven’t had a fucking break from our kids in ages least a year SIL seems to lucked in again with having a easy time of it...

AIBU to tell them to manage DN’s expectations a bit better, learn some some manners and wait for invite and basically get fucked or for the sake to the kids do I bite my tongue.

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Fairyliz · 28/10/2019 11:57

Sorry but your penultimate paragraph is not really clear. Is Mil staying in a cottage with sil it with you? Not really sure why you are cross.
Where are your parents in all of this don’t you have a close relationship with them? Inevitably in laws will have a closer relationship with the children they see on a regular basis. My sil had full time childcare from inlaws but as we lived 150 Miles away they never looked after our kids. However my kids had a much closer bond with my parents.
Sorry just think that’s life.

Freddiefox · 28/10/2019 12:01

You seem to have a bit of a push me pull me approach, you want them to be involved on your terms and with boundaries you set which is fine but you see to also and want all their other relationships to be on the same levels.

It does get annoying when you have parents that talk about other people all time but often I think that’s what they have in their life

anotheroneaboutamil · 28/10/2019 12:07

I’m very close with my parents, they live also really far away (we moved) so we also see them a few times a year (a little confused what’s that go to do with my OP Hmm)

They have booked a cottage for everyone that is visiting (they generally stay here but house not big enough for everyone) but DN has announced that she won’t be staying with them (she’s 9) and will be staying with us for the week.

I do understand that daughters and mothers are always going to have that close bond and like I have said I wouldn’t want the level of involvement that mil has in SIL and family life...

I guess I’m just having a moan. Smile

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theduchessstill · 28/10/2019 12:07

I don't really understand it. You dislike your in-laws but the kids are really fond of them? You would hate to be close by them and didn't really want them to come and stay but are happy that they are but not happy with where they are staying?

Your dh is right - if you want lots of help from in-laws it comes at a price and you would obviously need to live near them. Is Sil with a partner? It reads like she isn't and in that case it's even more understandable they would want to help her out. If you don't want to put the niece up then say so - I think it's just her that will be staying with you, apologies if that's wrong.

anotheroneaboutamil · 28/10/2019 12:09

@Freddiefox you are possibly right, I do think I have struggled with boundaries and them over the years and now that I have a bit more space away from and more confidence I possibly am asking too much of them.

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anotheroneaboutamil · 28/10/2019 12:11

theduchessstill I have never said once that I dislike them. In some ways we get on great and I also never once used the word “hate” I’m not one who won’t listen if I’m wrong but please don’t put words in my mouth.

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anotheroneaboutamil · 28/10/2019 12:12

SIL is married.

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Winterdaysarehere · 28/10/2019 12:20

Sorry mil we hadn't figured for ft care of an extra dc in our holidays but are happy to meet you xy and z times.
She is a cf imo.
And luckily for you she isn't nearby. Let dh deal with monotonous sil based phone calls.

anotheroneaboutamil · 28/10/2019 12:27

Thanks @Winterdaysarehere think that’s the route I’m going fo go down and thankfully DH is in agreement.

The ironic thing is we hardly ever hear anything from SIL occasionally a “what can I get for ..... Christmas/birthday” and it’s perfectly pleasant when we are all together but we aren’t close.

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theduchessstill · 28/10/2019 12:30

OP, you didn't say you dislike them or would hate to live near them, it's true, but you did mention a fair bit of tension between you and MIL when you lived close by so I got the impression that you wouldn't want to do so again. But I apologise - I didn't mean to put words in your mouth and you do also state that you don't think MIL does anything deliberately or our of spite, so that's good.

Having re-read your OP it's basically AIBU not to want 9yo niece to stay with me during family visit? You're not UR and they should have asked rather than telling you it was happening. However, it seems this mainly stems from a bit of resentment from you about how you perceive SIL has an easier life with a lot more help than you, and I think that's a bit of a shame really. There are 1 or 2 other DN I think so it's not like SIL will be child-free, and if this 9yo is a nice kid with no behaviour problems I think I'd go with it. If your kids are anything like mine (and I appreciate they may not be) they are easier to handle with visitors/other kids around and it would actually make life easier for me to have a well-behaved companion around for them for a visit.

They should have asked though, no doubt about that.

AndwhenyougetthereFoffsomemore · 28/10/2019 12:33

How about saying that YOUR dc have been so excited too and they were suggesting a sleepover at MIL/SIL's cottage: and you were thinking that would be a great chance for them to have some really dedicated time with that side of the family. So how about 2 days sleepover for DN at your house, 2 days sleepover for your dc at their house, and 3 days each at their own houses or similar? I'd say you'd told your dcs only a few nights not the whole thing as you know that kids often don't sleep so well on sleepovers and you didn't want them exhausted/not enjoying the trip/visit. Only works if at least some of your dc are old enough/you trust your MIL/SIL enough obv... but solves many issues with one stroke...

Doggodogington · 28/10/2019 12:34

She probably just thought it would be nice for the cousins to get together. Do you not like you SIL much? I think it’s only natural for your MIL to feel closer to her than to you, she is her daughter after all. How about having DN half the time and then your DC stay in the cottage half the time?

Winterdaysarehere · 28/10/2019 12:38

Mil has no intention of being the main carer for the holiday does she?
Nothing nice for the op about that....

anotheroneaboutamil · 28/10/2019 12:41

Funnily enough that was what DH said, we’ll have DN to stay a night and then we will just drop all 4 back off at the cottage with sleeping bags!! 😂

I also get on fine with SIL she is perfectly nice and inoffensive Grin I love her children though and like I said in my OP we had already decided that we would be asking if the kids wanted to come for a sleepover but the way it was put to me that DN would be staying for the week with us as that’s what she wanted to do felt a bit cheeky, I would like to be asked or the opportunity to offer...

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NoSquirrels · 28/10/2019 12:41

%How about saying that YOUR dc have been so excited too and they were suggesting a sleepover at MIL/SIL's cottage: and you were thinking that would be a great chance for them to have some really dedicated time with that side of the family.^

THIS! ^^

anotheroneaboutamil · 28/10/2019 12:42

Sorry I feel my op mustn’t have been very clear. MIL, FIL, SIL and her children are all coming down together and in-laws have rented a cottage for them.

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Billben · 28/10/2019 12:42

YANBU. I have a 10 year old and I guarantee you that she wouldn’t be the one deciding where she was staying if we visited relatives abroad. She could have a say in things but not a deciding decision.

Winterdaysarehere · 28/10/2019 12:44

Maybe the cottage is a bed short??

NoSquirrels · 28/10/2019 12:45

Btw, totally sympathise on the every-conversation-defaults-to-other-GC thing. My MIL sounds exactly like yours - she doesn’t mean it to come across how it does, I think she’s genuinely just sharing conversation but it is annoying when your child’s concert/star of the Week/hospital trip is relentlessly compared to X, Y, Z achievements of their cousins.

Drogosnextwife · 28/10/2019 12:53

God you sound so bitter that your pil help their own draught with her kids. You chose to move away because you didn't want them involved, yet you are moaning that sil gets it easy and you haven't had a break from your kids in a year. You moved away 🤔.
Tell them it's not convinient for dn to stay for the whole week but stop whinging that they do to much for their dd.

anotheroneaboutamil · 28/10/2019 12:55

@Billben Spot on and probably why I’m quite irrationally pissed off about it...

MIL on phone, and ....(DN) said “oh that’s a lovely cottage you will all be staying in” and I said “No silly it’s for all of us” DN (apparently) *queue MIL’s stupid giggle “I won’t be staying there I’ll be with ....(DC) for the week”

Bullshit!!

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Freddiefox · 28/10/2019 12:57

So your dn wants to stay and you don’t want her too, or you want her to wait to be asked.
So you are going to tell mil that you’re not sure if she can stay as you haven’t worked out what you are doing yet.
And that’s fine, you can create as many boundaries and rules as you like, but it’s not going to create an environment of closeness.
Yes they should have waited but Kids’s get excited and they don’t know the rules. It’s nice she’s excited and they are keen to see yours. It can’t all be on your terms so I think you need to decide do you want them to be a close family or a formal family

I have a bit more space away from and more confidence I possibly am asking too much of them.

I think you’re unsure what you want tbh

anotheroneaboutamil · 28/10/2019 13:02

@Drogosnextwife cheers for your input for what it’s worth my husband has just spent the last 9 month out in Afghanistan and we moved so that my children were closer to his base and they could see him occasionally...

You’re right what bitter bastards we are.

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MonaLisaDoesntSmile · 28/10/2019 13:25

I never got how/why people just invite themselves over and inform you of their plans instead of agreeing what to do together? My parents would never even dream of telling family when we were visiting "This is what our kids want, deal with it, hohoho". It's really rude, so I know how you feel. I would hate family to do that to me, especially since you have not been asked for any input yourself, and your SIL does indeed have it quite easy way.
I would, when next time you speak to them, say Oh btw I was a bit unsure what oyu meant by DN staying with us, it gave us a great idea on the other hand that it would be a great opportunity for you and SIL to spend more time with our kids too, so we will drop them off for a couple of nights so you get to enjoy them as well, does that not sound great? Thanks, bye! Drogosnextwife is probably your MIL :)

anotheroneaboutamil · 28/10/2019 13:32

@MonaLisaDoesntSmile thanks that made me laugh!!! Grin

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