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Yet another Christmas vs Family one

24 replies

RB68 · 25/10/2019 11:02

For about the last 10 yrs MIL always came to us - she is elderly (88) very religious and usually family orientated. She has phases of I am going to die this month when fundamentally there is very little wrong with her that eating a few decent meals wouldn't resolve, we know the eating is an issue she is 5.5stone and has been for several yrs at 4ft 10 and tiny frame - still wears a size 12 though which seems to fit.

This year both my parents are actually dying - Dad was given 2 mths to live 4 mths ago, he is still on his feet living life as usual but more tired and needs rests more frequently, he is in liver and heart failure with faulty valves and also type 2 diabetic insulin and medication dependent (so severe)

There are lots of children and we all want a last christmas sort of thing in this lovely hotel we have found at a great price for the 4 days over christmas - various of the kids are also bringing in laws so BIG get together all the cousins etc.

We asked MIL - she has said No as she might be ill by then. To be fair its a fair old drive (for us and her - 4 hrs for her 2 for us but we will end up going to collect and driving home to collect stuff and then on up to where it is (Close to everyone else). She has form for saying no initially and then deciding at the last minute to come. Cost is £380 all in bar any lunch requirements (But bear in mind its full English and 3 course eve meal job so lunch is a snack to be honest). She generally gives us in the region of this as a gift/thank you for having her etc

Am I unreasonable to book for us and keep an eye on their single room bookings for her, or if she doesn't change her mind then just going without her? I feel quite strongly that she shouldn't get to dictate what is the last Christmas I will have both my parents and with Mums dementia, Parents who know who I am (although given current rate of decline that is debatable).

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Shoxfordian · 25/10/2019 11:06

Just book yourselves and then if she wants to go she can sort herself out nearer the time

Starryskye · 25/10/2019 11:07

It sounds like MIL has taken precedence for years so given the fact that this is your dad's last Christmas the only option is to leave her behind. One Christmas won't hurt and she's been given the option to go. She sounds very selfish and the not eating is attention seeking to me, but that's just my opinion.

I hope you all have a wonderful Christmas together and I'm sorry you're going through this.

Jupiters · 25/10/2019 11:08

Book it it for yourselves and she can decide closer to the time. I imagine once she finds out you are actually going she will change get mind!

Loopytiles · 25/10/2019 11:09

Yes, tell her that it won’t be possible to decide to come at the last minute, and leave her if that’s what she decides.

AmIThough · 25/10/2019 11:11

I think it's really lovely of you to consider booking for her! If you can afford to do so, please do.

I hope your family have a lovely Christmas x

thatsmyumbrella · 25/10/2019 11:23

Let her know you are booking for yourselves and she has to decide if she wants to come because there will be no availability nearer the time

Mrsmememe · 25/10/2019 11:26

I would book it for your lot and make it clear to her that you are booking (give her a headline to decide by). If she doesn’t join you at that point then don’t feel guilty.

JacquesHammer · 25/10/2019 11:29

Could she be worried about the length of travel? Would it be possible to collect her the day before for example so she only has to travel to yours on one day and the venue on the second?

You sound very considerate but I think your family has to take precedence over MIL.

I would say "we'd really love you to join us but we have to decide now as there will be no availability last minute".

RB68 · 25/10/2019 11:30

We won't be paying for her - we could contribute if she agrees to go but that would be in form of her gift for Christmas (usually £1-200 depending on what she wants although generally its M&S Vouchers these days). Everyone else and all other related folk are paying for themselves including two Brothers PILs.

She is sitting on a large pot of money she won't spend incase she needs it when she is old....I would far rather she spent some and enjoyed the last few years - she is 88!! When will she be old!! Far better a knees up in a Hotel for Christmas than an OAPs home.

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AryaStarkWolf · 25/10/2019 11:31

She sounds very selfish and the not eating is attention seeking to me, but that's just my opinion.

People tend to lose their appetites as they get elderly, my FIL is the same and he's definitely not an attention seeker, so did my grand mother

TheRobinIsBobbingAlong · 25/10/2019 11:32

Are you her only relatives OP? I'm guessing your DH doesn't have any siblings she could spend Christmas with, or does MIL have any siblings herself who could host her?

If you're her only relatives then do as you plan - book for yourselves to go to the hotel and keep an eye on single rooms. Make it clear to her that you're definitely going and that she'll be on her own if she decides to not join you.

I'm sorry to hear about your DPs. I hope your Christmas celebrations will bring you lots of nice memories that you can treasure Flowers.

RB68 · 25/10/2019 11:35

I think I need to have a more detailed conversation with her, DH not usually good at explaining things to her - they even have bingo which she misses as they closed her local one down.

Downton like surrounds and Bingo - should be in her element!

I feel like I have enough on my plate...

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RB68 · 25/10/2019 11:37

Thanks everyone - you have made me realise that it isn't me being hard faced, I know I am not really but I do need to have another go - will book us in and go from there

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AmIThough · 25/10/2019 11:37

@RB68 I completely misread your post and thought you'd said you'd book a single for her in case she changes her mind Grin

Definitely book for you and your family.
She can either come or not come but just let her know if she changes her mind it's unlikely there'll be an available room.

RB68 · 25/10/2019 11:38

Oh and yes pretty much only relatives - she has an older brother (!!) still sprightly who hops off down to his daughters for Christmas. He still trains and planes and walks miles on his adventures and she is not quite up to keeping up with him.

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helpfulperson · 25/10/2019 11:38

Have you seen the BBC article on anorexia in older people? It makes the point eating disorders aren't just a teenage issue.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50087460

AryaStarkWolf · 25/10/2019 11:40

I think I need to have a more detailed conversation with her, DH not usually good at explaining things to her - they even have bingo which she misses as they closed her local one down.

Your Dh should really get his shit together and take over handling his mother. You really should not have to take that worry on aswell with dealing with the worry of your own parents

RB68 · 25/10/2019 12:01

Oh I tell him that all the time - lol

I don't think it is anorexia - there are reasons behind it and these have resulted in a fear of eating too much whilst also having had you just eat three meals a day drummed into her since childhood - anything more is greedy so the Nuns in the orphanage said. They used to steal raw turnip!!! So yes lots of food issues, but mostly a laziness around prep and cooking for self and not being prepared to eat more regularly of higher calorie items - she was pleased to go back to full fat milk though when GP told her.

I feel 99% Sure she will go and will enjoy but likes the fuss of saying no to start with. My other issue is that she refuses to wear her hearing aids and can't use phones as a result so need to go down...

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RB68 · 26/10/2019 17:25

I have booked us in and started a letter....I am ridiculously excited and keep thinking of stuff I won't have to do....like SHOPPING FOR FOOD wooohoo

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DonKeyshot · 26/10/2019 17:34

Can you use an agency such as booking.com to reserve a place for mil and be able to opt out of it at no cost if she doesn't go?

It can be a faff to cook only for oneself - ready meals are her friend. Maybe fill her freezer as a Christmas present? If all she's got to do is stick a meal in the microwave or oven it may encourage to eat more or a least eat a decent meal everyday.

DonKeyshot · 26/10/2019 17:39

We've got one like your MIL in my family. Even if she gets the telegram I doubt she'll see herself as 'old' and your chances of separating her from that pot of money are remote. Halloween Grin

bringbacksideburns · 26/10/2019 17:44

I hope you have a wonderful Christmas!

I would be letting your DH know in no uncertain terms that he needs to sort out all MIL related arrangements this year and not bother you with any last minute change of plans , as you are focused on your own family for very obvious reasons this time .

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 26/10/2019 17:50

Can you book now and cancel with reasonable notice? It seems an amazing price so I guess the hotel can re-book if they are given a bit of time.

I'm so sorry about your parents and I hope you really enjoy this Christmas. Being waited on all day sounds like bliss!

june2007 · 26/10/2019 17:51

Ok so tell her whatyou have booked and the option is there for her to join you but you really need to know sooner rather then later as she might loose out. Some people in their eightees are like your uncle in the fact there still active. Others make themselves sound older then they are. I can understand that this may sound "too much" for her but if she says no then that's up to her.

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